Oops CT, looks like John didn't read the "can we NOT..." bit in your post!!!

Having done a little Wing Chun, I found it to be an excellent style for close in fighing. Perhaps western boxing has the advantge when fighting at arms length? I would imaging that boxers will always struggle to cope with the trapping techniques of WC, and fast jabs would be the best way to approach the fight.

Anyway, if you ask me...boxing sucks. I saw a boxer once, and he got beat. It's just not REAL enough...

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