Nice to see everyoneís different perspective. From my perspective, I was following up on Dobbersky's statement "Have you ever been attacked this way in "real" situations etc?"
Concerning eye gouging, I was merely trying to point out that these things are not allowed in competition and can be useful in the street. The correct way to use this is if for example someone grabs you in a front bear hug, to slide your hands up his face and with your thumbs feel your way into the eyes sockets. The idea is to create enough of a distraction to get out of bear hug. Seriously I donít know anyone who believes that poking your fingers in someoneís eyes in a full frontal attack actually works as the eye is such a small target.
Forced to grow up on the outskirts of the ghettos (called townships) in South Africa during the Apartheid era, I've seen enough fights and actually got involved in a couple. All I can say is not to expect trained moves
... expect the unexpected and sometimes the awkward ones are the most dangerous. Looking back, getting involved was really stupid on my part because I could have really got seriously hurt. Anyway in many of these fights, anything went and a lot of times any weapon that was handy was used such as knives, sticks, bricks/stones, etc. Usually it happens like this: men get paid on Fridays, they buy booze, got drunk, then fight over women and/or money ... all because they lived in such depraved conditions.
As Iíve said in my post, kihon or kata are training tools to help build speed, agility, coordination and power. Most serious TMA folks understand that and donít believe one really fights like that. Iíve never seen Latoya Machida fight with the moves like he is doing in this kata Sochin http://youtu.be/NouSD4OMEac
but Iím guessing that he does practice some kata once in a while. It is how one trains oneís kumite that becomes important especially with the use of weapons. A natural outcome of that thinking is Krav Maga or Systema.
Regarding unarmed combat, training in MMA is probably the best way today to make you the best unarmed fighter but where there are rules, there are limitations. If I was younger, I probably would be cross-training in MMA if it was around then, but frankly at 60 next year, I donít think I should be getting into the ring.
Anyhow my main point is to think of weapon first by the attacker and anything goes in any confrontation. If there is a weapon involved, then youíve allowed to it go too far then you better do him in first before he does you in. It is better and so much harder to apologize in the beginning and walk away.