Hey thanks for that great response. Problem is, another week area is take downs. Anyway, I do want to be well rounded. I like stand up as well esp kicking. I'm definitely going to stick with it. Its fun, keeps me interested and moving. At my age, I'm not going to crawl into a cage, but going a bit on the hard side with some of these 20 somethings is just fine with me. I definitely don't make it easy for them.