Is apparently what these two are doing:

I used to think this kind of thing was great training. Now I realize it generates a false sense of security. It's unfortunate people buy into thinking that this stuff will work. Tim Larkin should be ashamed of himself if this is what he teaches to be a prefered methods of drilling techniques. And the reliance on very defined reactions from the various techniques to lead into others is just asking for troubke. so often people don't react to a strike the way you would hope.
Sad sad sad...
Member of DaJoGen MMA school under Dave Hagen and Team Chaos fight team under Denver Mangiyatan and Chris Toquero, ran out of Zanshin Martial Arts in Salem Oregon:,