Hello paul40:

An important thread to be certain!!!!

So how do we as "observers" (in this medium <wg>), how do we contribute something of value that helps distinguish the idiotic from the un-honed gems of real value???

Lets try this dance <hopeful shrug>...

Shall we start with the "discipline" idea???? Or perhaps exploring dignity (as a function of good training) would be simpler crazy ????