ok guys, time out - I am moving to forms section and I would like for you to all keep a little more on topic.

Please avoid the religious references, not relevant and can cause further issues which don't assist the topic.

We can also remember to keep things civil and not insulting to each other, it's close to being locked but lets try and run the topic a little more.
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Jim Neeter

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