Jude,

Out of interest, what sort of history do you research?

You said "Some persons from more than likely the Mesopotamia area visited Okinawa a long time before the Napoleonic period.

I am speculating that is how the origins of ti began and if I am correct that might be one of the reasons why Medulanet with his wrestling background feels that wrestling co/existed in karate."

What evidence makes you believe this? Which persons from Mesopotamia (now Iraq) do you think visited Okinawa to pass on wrestling skills, when and why?

B.