points taken, now that i look at it, there are alot of wrist grabs, wow. i never even considered it when we were filming this morning, i just decided to start the applications from a close distance and against thoes commen acts of vilence (round house punches, and grabing alot due to close distance) its just the way it worked out. thanks for the comments tho.

anything else? lo, there's always something else...

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