With all due respect I would rather hone my physical skills then my linguistic ones, much preferring to throw fifty twist punches then talk about how to train to throw fifty twist punches.

Talking about training, is not a substitute for training. As far as learning from the forum...exchanging ideology....and the value of that, well that's a different topic.

Just for the record Jeff, you didn't answer the question.

Shorinjiryumike GKD