Vernon Bell brought the art to the UK, he passed on the teaching which was then passed on and on to myself. I have no interest in what he did after this as it does not affect me in the slightest. Ed you are clutching at straws to win a point over Mark. Pathetic really.
I feel sorry for the association who you have dragged into this debate - looking at your website its not really cutting edge design itself is it? Cookie cutter?