Fair point on the grappling. Not doing any ground work myself, such application does not automaticaly spring to mind. In fact, what you will notice as this thread progresses is that i do not attend many MA classes these days. That is purely a situation influenced by finances at present. I am saving to buy my wife the full leg piece tattoo she has always wanted- ths means pulling extra shifts at the family pub, and also cutting back on other non essentials/recreations. I use the heavy bag extensively, rope a friend of mine with some good Wing Chun experience in to sparring from time to time, and try to get to a Savate class every 3-4 weeks to ensure I dont fall into too many bad habits.