Yes it has just been spelled out to me.

Your not going to tell me that karate has more techniques to learn in the first year than mai thai are you ? That being the case
If what you and cvv are saying is that the level of fitness,technique's and general sparring skills during the first year of training of karate people where you train are below the level of that of a mai thai fighter of the same training duration, then i am afraid nothing more will come from any more discussions.

please keep the comments to techniques ?

Thanks