I was reading the article on gun disarming (very good, by the way) and wanted to learn more about the author. I clicked on the link and was eager to explore the site. (realfighting.com). I eventually found my way to an article by WR Mann on why traditional Karate is ineffective. I think ALL fo you should read this article, if you are not familar with it already. http://www.realfighting.com/issue6/mannframe.html. If posting links in the forums is not condoned, my apologies admin. I'll remember in the future not to post links, if that is the rule.