It's nice to see someone else that cross trains and is familar with the Russian Arts. Alot of people blow this off and don't think it is real. Train with the Russians and you will find something different. I have done Sambo and the ROSS system under General Retinsuhka(?) himself. Also did a seminar of Spetzna, the other Russian art. I find it amusing when I'M told that it is not real when we spent 2 hours working with a shovel and how to disect someone with it. We also worked against an AK-47 and to this day I hope they were unloaded at the time, but now am afraid to find out. I will tell you though, that the Russian arts, the Hawaiian Arts have been a major accent to my training. Keep the open minds and sharing your information