First Chen, the spine IS bent [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG] !

Secondly, in the Karate have have taken, upright does not equal tense.

On the other hand, Joe Hall, student of Ark Won Yuey talks about the three bends. I just never saw the back as being on of them.

I read what you are saying, but still don't get the concept. You guys need to paint a better mental picture of the physical technique for me because I'm not seeing it from what you've written so far. Think of it as a writing experiment. Can you compare it to something else? Come on guys, it's your turn to turn on my lightbulb, dim as that may be...