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#97580 - 05/08/05 10:25 PM
Re: Gun Disarm; Pistol Front
[Re: Fletch1]
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Free Rhinoplasty!
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Registered: 11/25/04
Posts: 15634
Loc: York PA. USA
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I agree with Fletch.
Live ammo drills?! Have you lost your MF mind?
While I do not have that much firearm training, I was shown to basically control the weapon to one side of the opponent's centerline, while moving your body to the other side if possible.
Thankfully, I have never had to use any of it for real.
Hopefully it will stay that way.
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#97581 - 05/09/05 02:32 PM
Re: Gun Disarm; Pistol Front
[Re: Fletch1]
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Registered: 05/07/05
Posts: 11
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Since you are in SF Group Fletch, I will send you a reply out of thread.
A demo is not the same as training. This is more of a once a year event.
Hell I was uncomfortable doing it with real guns at all. Then it was pointed out that, that it was that uncomfortable feeling that needed to be trained out of. Made more since after actually doing it.
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#97582 - 05/09/05 04:03 PM
Re: Gun Disarm; Pistol Front
[Re: Conad]
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Registered: 06/21/03
Posts: 1379
Loc: Newburgh,NY,USA
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So conrad, just because curiosity kills the cat, who are you with? Ed
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#97584 - 05/09/05 06:57 PM
Re: Gun Disarm; Pistol Front
[Re: Fletch1]
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Registered: 05/07/05
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Basic SF prior to moving on to Group.
Sorry fletch, I misunderstood this line then.
Ed, I am retired US Army. If you meant the CQC class, we are a private group thats gets together every month. The group has a nice mix of military, martial artits, and LE.
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#97585 - 05/09/05 09:40 PM
Re: Gun Disarm; Pistol Front
[Re: Conad]
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Registered: 06/21/03
Posts: 1379
Loc: Newburgh,NY,USA
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"private group thats gets together " Thank you I do not need to know anything else. Good day. Ed
PS I have been to live fire exercises but they were not as conad has discribed.
Edited by Ed Glasheen (05/09/05 10:21 PM)
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#97586 - 05/15/05 04:27 PM
Re: Gun Disarm; Pistol Front
[Re: Conad]
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Registered: 12/31/04
Posts: 14
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His aim will be erratic? Since when do you need good aim to hit a grown man at point blank range for being stupid enough to reach for your gun? Try it with a paintball gun, you'll get hit every time. The only way you could disarm a man and not get shot is if he's really stupid and turns his head or gets really close and semi-distracted. An "attacker" is almost as scared as you are, he's not going to trust being 4 inches from you, he's most likely going to be four or five feet back. In which case you'd have a lot of ground to cover before even making contact. And you're right about the controlled settings. But if you're scared, already have your gun out, paying attention, and a guy reaches for you, doesn't common sense tell you it'll take less time to squeeze off a quick shot than to take a step or two, grab the gun, aim the gun away from your self, and then do some move that only works for Jackie Chan?
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#97587 - 05/15/05 04:35 PM
Re: Gun Disarm; Pistol Front
[Re: Nevermiss]
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Registered: 12/31/04
Posts: 14
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I also had to say this: Live ammo for a gun disarm demo...are you retarded? Somebody is retarded to even think of that, either you, or your trainer. Well you both must be, him for allowing somebody to point a gun with live ammo at him, and you're retarded for following up with somebody retarded enough to let somebody aim a gun at him. Keep this stuff simple guys, martial arts is OBSOLETE when it comes to a gun. If you seriously worry about your safety, get a legal carry permit and have a police officer teach you how to shoot and how to draw your weapon quickly. You can still use your martial arts on some dummy you'd rather not shoot, but if I man has a gun or knife don't play Jackie Chan, this is real life, and in real life life can end. If a man's trying to kill you, end his first, call the cops, go home, and call it a day.
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