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#97487 - 05/24/04 11:01 PM Re: need help choosing style/ not the normal what is best
otobeawanker Offline
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Well. I know what i said doesn't appy to some blackbelts. But I spar with many friends, full contact. One is a Karate Canadian National champion (black belt) and another is a (black belt) Tae Qwon Do student. And when they fight me they wouldn't dream of using Karate or Tae Qwon Do, against me. They western box me. Why? Cause it is effective and it works. Also anyone who is a boxer can take the hits with little discomfort. Alot of schools don't do, live, full contact. You have to train it like you use it.

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#97488 - 05/25/04 12:03 AM Re: need help choosing style/ not the normal what is best
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In and out of martial arts for years, but your national champion firend gets his arse kicked routinely by you?

Guess what, I'd use my "krotty" and it would be fairly rough. Maybe YOU were shit.

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#97489 - 05/25/04 12:55 AM Re: need help choosing style/ not the normal what is best
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#97490 - 05/25/04 06:57 AM Re: need help choosing style/ not the normal what is best
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The fact you deride karate for being watered down, and then state Japan is where it's at, even though this is where the devolution occured, means you don't know shit from clay.

Oh please teach me more!

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#97491 - 05/25/04 07:08 AM Re: need help choosing style/ not the normal what is best
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Well, I've seen the drills they do there first hand *laughs and shakes head* buckets full off rocks they smash against their legs, THATS MARTIAL ARTS, not fighting imaginary opponents all day. Sorry to dissapoint you again.

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#97492 - 05/25/04 09:11 AM Re: need help choosing style/ not the normal what is best
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How long have you been doing matrial arts for?

How old are you?

What was the longest time you studied a martial art for?

When did you go to Okinawa?

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#97493 - 05/25/04 03:19 PM Re: need help choosing style/ not the normal what is best
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by otobeawanker:
Well, I've seen the drills they do there first hand *laughs and shakes head* buckets full off rocks they smash against their legs, THATS MARTIAL ARTS, not fighting imaginary opponents all day. Sorry to dissapoint you again.[/QUOTE]

Actually, smashing rocks against your legs is BLOODY STUPID. Especially as thai fighters manage to condition using bags/pads/sparring.

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#97494 - 05/25/04 05:45 PM Re: need help choosing style/ not the normal what is best
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I am 24 and have been training for over ten years. Its not the years that are inportant. So much. I have been training about a thousand hours per year. Give or take twenty hours a week. I am an orange belt in Karate but wouldn't recomend it to anyone. As far as thinking that one can harden on pads is absurd. I've been training Muay Thai for five years. The instructers feel that you can't harden your body with pads. My one instructer learned in Thai land and is a proffesional body guard. One must take his steel shin and slam it against his opponent. Then you stand there and take a baseball bat of a shin back from your partner, repeat till you are sugnifigantly bruised. Then rest and replenish. Thus hardening the body. I have been jumped by men with bats and when they hit me I didn't feel a thing, I just beat them down. How is this possible? A life full of full contact sports, including seven years of american football. Okinawa is where I get my coral calcium. I have never been there. I watched an hour long expose on Karate on the learning channel where they showed the buckets or rocks being smashed against their legs and the boot camp like training. They compared the art to its western counterpart in detail. I think many modern martial arts, are all art, and no martial. I can drop people with one body shot wearing a 12 ounce glove, yet they can pound on my body with thier bare fist all day and I don't feel a thing. You just have to do a little bit everyday. Then ten years later your a man of Iron. My bone density is inhuman. I think that more people should engage in the hardening of the body, because it also hgardens the mind to pain, you can't be a truly good fighter unless pain is something you look forward too. Pain is our mate. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG] Im sure alot of you think I'm a crazy fool, but I have the witnesses to prove I can take on many armed assalents. I am a warrior poet not some nancy boy fighting his shadow all day. I have trained in over twelve different arts and have established my own stlye that is pratical and extremely effective. You can't dodge every strike, you gotta learn to wear them. I think too many people are scared of pain. I can box a steel door bare knuckle and dent the crap out of it with no discomfort. Thats Martial Arts. This Iron body is only half of it though the rest must be backed up by flawless technique. If you can't do it without thinking about it it is useless.

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#97495 - 05/25/04 08:16 PM Re: need help choosing style/ not the normal what is best
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American Football full contact?

Yeah, those pads, helmets, time outs, ohh that's tough!

"I have trained in over twelve different arts and have established my own stlye that is pratical and extremely effective."

I'll ignore your shit from now on.

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#97496 - 05/25/04 10:57 PM Re: need help choosing style/ not the normal what is best
otobeawanker Offline
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The metal helmut and shoulder pads are your weapon you attack the unprotected ribs, legs and joints of your opponent with.

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