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#95161 - 09/09/03 03:23 PM Re: Teaching Self Defence
Yoseikan Student Offline
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Registered: 05/02/03
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JKogas:
Mr V-

Normally I'd tell you to kiss my ass, but I'm not losing any sleep over your opinion. Think what you want. I call it like I see it. Not much will change in that regard.


-John

[This message has been edited by JKogas (edited 09-08-2003).]
[/QUOTE]

????????

am I reading the same thread as everyone else?

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#95162 - 09/09/03 05:13 PM Re: Teaching Self Defence
rinpoche Offline
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Elliot,

Thanks again for your above-the-board reply.

I can see clearly that we agree more than we disagree. And I can also see that some of our advertsing may have given you a false impression about what we are doing. We are working on making that clearer - but we are new to advertising what we do. In that respect, your comments are very valuable to me.

What we are absolutely not doing is turning rank amateurs out on the street to teach rank amateurs. Our target market is people who operate martial arts schools and would like to learn an additional way to earn from teaching with a helpful seminar that we feel very good about. We have developed a curriculum that I feel is valuable, and teaches people quality skills in a short period of time.

In fact - I have changed some of the language in our advertising already to try to make this clearer - and we are continuing to work on it.

We are not handing out certifications to just anyone who shows up, and we're not passing out black belts.

There are several models of instruction out there that are held in high regard that work in exactly the same way - in the same timeframe as we are teaching. To name some - Tony Blauer's PDR system, and several police defensive tactics instructors programs namely PPCT, CDT, and ISR matrix. To my knowledge, Krav maga has a similar instructor certification program. Pavel Tsatsouline and Scott Sonnen have physical training certifications that are shorter than our seminar. Do they teach everything there is to know about physical training - nope, but there instruction sis reportedly top notch.

I am not comparing what we do to anyone - merely pointing out that there is a model of doing short specialized certifications that I believe has validity.

I certainly understand your concern for individuals who may want to take our seminar and go out and give poor instruction, and we are working on methods of maintaining quality control.

There is nothing I can do if a somebody I taught to yellow belt level in Jujutsu photoshops a menkyo kaiden, puts on a black belt, and opens up a school and charges people. With our certifications we are indeed going to get feedback on our instructors, and keep an eye on them. But right now anybody can hang up a shingle and teach, but if they're not good - they won't last long.

Anyway - Elliot, I thank you again. You have been very helpful to me, and I appreciate your "watchdog" nature.

-John

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#95163 - 09/09/03 08:12 PM Re: Teaching Self Defence
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Jkogas, Dear friend, I think you may have took Mr. V in the wrong manner. He is a karateka and a proud one at that, and it simply offended him when you classify McDojo's of any art simply as "Karate". Surely you could agree that not ALL karate is bad.

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