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#95141 - 09/07/03 05:21 AM Teaching Self Defence
Anonymous
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What do you all make of this?
http://www.martialtrainingsystems.com/seminars/ppi.php

I found it unbelievable
Sharon

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#95142 - 09/07/03 08:38 AM Re: Teaching Self Defence
JKogas Offline
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Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 10818
Loc: North Carolina
Caveat Emptor -- "Let the buyer beware"!

It's just another (one of many) methods that con-artists will use to separate you from your money.

I'm betting that if you go to this seminar (to learn how to host seminars), there will be nothing but compliant partners practicing these "self-defense" techniques on each other.

I could do the same thing (but I wouldn't be able to sleep at night)! I can come up with an ENDLESS list of "self-defense" techniques. When training "pretend", we ALWAYS make them "work" and we always "win" (just like karate practice)! It makes people feel good about themselves and go home thinking they're bad-asses. Then they go and talk smack to the Lacrosse players at the local 7/11 and end up with a $600 dental bill.

Stay away from BS like this!

-John

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#95143 - 09/07/03 05:23 PM Re: Teaching Self Defence
Isshin Dude Offline
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Registered: 07/06/03
Posts: 480
Loc: Knoxville Tennessee U.S.A
I Wonder if ashida kim got started that way. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

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#95144 - 09/07/03 06:46 PM Re: Teaching Self Defence
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Loc: UK
A few points.

Firstly that advert is a disgrace.

Secondly, Sharon do you surf the net looking for odd MA related adverts ? [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

Thirdly, JKogas, you seem to have fallen into the habit of associating everything that you find distasteful in the martial arts with the word "Karate". This is unjust, factualy incorrect and a slight upon those who practice the Art. You do it in the above post and once again in the "finger lock" thread. There is a lot of poor ineffective Karate taught but then again there is a lot of poor MA taught in general. Your own prefered style is not immune to this trend by any means. In your mind, Karate appears to be synonymous with ineffective technique bad training practices and blinkered opinion.
Though I consider myself a more diverse and well rounded martial artist than those who do
just march up and down in lines throwing techniques in the air, Karate is still at the root of my martial practice. I can assure you John, that I am neither ineffective, blinkered or engaged in bad practice........Don't label the Art for the sins of third rate charlatons who have hijacked it for profit.

Regds
Mr V

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#95145 - 09/07/03 09:32 PM Re: Teaching Self Defence
Raul Perez Offline
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Registered: 08/08/02
Posts: 2805
Loc: Lake Ronkonkoma, NY, USA
Thanks Mr.V, you saved me a post!

Kind regard,

Raul

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#95146 - 09/08/03 12:57 AM Re: Teaching Self Defence
Anonymous
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MrVigerous:
A few points.

Firstly that advert is a disgrace.

Secondly, Sharon do you surf the net looking for odd MA related adverts ? [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]


Regds
Mr V

[/QUOTE]
No, This was advertised on this forum.
Sharon

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#95147 - 09/08/03 12:59 AM Re: Teaching Self Defence
Chen Zen Offline
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Registered: 02/09/03
Posts: 7043
Loc: Ms
LOL! Wow Mr. V thats the first time I felt that you were upset by a post. Im sure John means no harm. You are right though this happens alot, mainly with karate, and TKD as well.

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#95148 - 09/08/03 04:21 AM Re: Teaching Self Defence
JKogas Offline
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Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 10818
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So...this forum isn't about free speech? I'll make a note of that.

Thanks
-John

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#95149 - 09/08/03 08:06 AM Re: Teaching Self Defence
MAGon Offline
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Registered: 07/22/03
Posts: 1737
Loc: Miami, Fl.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JKogas:
So...this forum isn't about free speech? I'll make a note of that.

Thanks
-John
[/QUOTE]

Your post is still up there, John. It hasn't been deleted!!

Mr. V, you saved me a post as well. Good one!


[This message has been edited by MAGon (edited 09-08-2003).]

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#95150 - 09/08/03 10:58 AM Re: Teaching Self Defence
Raul Perez Offline
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Registered: 08/08/02
Posts: 2805
Loc: Lake Ronkonkoma, NY, USA
John,

Of course this forum is about free speech. Which means the members here have the freedom to display their views and others have the freedom to agree or disagree with those views.

Raul

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