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#93474 - 06/25/03 05:50 PM Re: Knives
Jamoni Offline
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Registered: 01/17/03
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Loc: St. Louis, MO, USA
Yoseikan, most people I know who carry knives carry a medium size (3 inches is about right) folding lockblade. I do. From what Mr. V has said, that would even be legal in the UK. Besides, REAL Rambo-philes would build explosive tipped arrows. Anyway, I look great in a headband, I LOVE to fire my M-60 from the hip, and my unintelligible drawl ROCKS! Got a pwoblem wif dat?

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#93475 - 06/25/03 05:53 PM Re: Knives
judderman Offline
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Just as a quick aside, but linked.

Psychological studies have indicated that the presence of a weapon, or images/phrases related to weapons, can increase the tendancy toward aggression.

You could argue that pulling a knife on someone is going to piss them off more than just threatening them.

I also seen the aggressive use of force at work. People who think take the force/authritarian route too quickly, because they believe they can, because they know they will win. There is a time and a place for these things, and all to often it can have a tendancy to back fire on you. I guess the same is for carrying effective weaponry.

Budo.

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#93476 - 06/25/03 06:22 PM Re: Knives
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Jamoni

I should have mentioned. Even the three inch or less blade which is folding MUST NOT be lockable. Equaly flick knives with any blade size, butterfly knives with any blade size (the type where the blade is between the handles and comes out with a wrist roll), push knives, buckle knives, gravity blades, disguised blades of any kind and throwing knives are all prohibited. Anything else ive forgotten is probably prohibited too [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG] In short if you want to carry a bladed instrument you're ok with a swiss arm knife or a leatherman but that's about it!

Regds
Mr V

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#93477 - 06/25/03 07:04 PM Re: Knives
Jamoni Offline
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Wow. Weren't you guys KNIGHTS, and stuff? Chivalry is dead.

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#93478 - 06/25/03 07:19 PM Re: Knives
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Ah yes but in our enlightened Democracy we have handed over most of our rights to protect ourselves (and most of the implements for doing it more effectively) to the state and the ever vigilant British bobby! (except at royal birthday parties obviously [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG] )

Anecdote based of true story:

Man wakes up in the night hears noises coming from downstairs. Opens door, listens and decides he's got an intruder in the house. Like the good law abiding citizen he is, he phones the police. On connecting with the boys in blue, he is told that there is nobody available to get there at the present time so stay where he is and hopefully the intruder will leave - the police will be around when they can! Great he thinks and stays in the bedroom, listening for any footsteps up the stairs. Eventualy he can't stand the tension and has a brainwave. He phones the police back and says "Dont bother rushing around i went downstairs and shot him so there's no hurry". Within 5 minutes the street outside is awash with blue lights, sirens and every police vehicle within miles. The man goes downstairs sees the intuder has left and opens the front door. Armed police and foot sloggers everywhere. Eventualy when it's discovered he's not armed a search is made and no body is found. "I thought you said you'd shot him" says one officer to the man. " I thought you said you couldn't make it!" said the man. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

No wonder people agonise over the merits of arming themselves and thereby risk breaking the law, simply to protect themselves and there family.

Regds
Mr V


[This message has been edited by MrVigerous (edited 06-25-2003).]

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#93479 - 06/25/03 10:25 PM Re: Knives
Ender Offline
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Registered: 04/29/03
Posts: 2253
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Hmm, prehaps my strategy needs to be thought out better. Thank you for the input, I'll go over it immediately looking for ways to improve. I'll keep you all posted on my progress.

Thanks again.

-Dan

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#93480 - 06/25/03 10:55 PM Re: Knives
Ed Glasheen Offline
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Registered: 06/21/03
Posts: 1379
Loc: Newburgh,NY,USA
I regret that you all allowed your goverment to take away your right to bear arms. Same thing happened in Austrailia. Thier crime didn't go down either. So as they say adapt and over come. Screw drivers are still legal, I hope. I bet you can learn how to use one to protect yourself. I bet you can even carry one in your brief case. Improvised weapon. Ed

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#93481 - 06/26/03 04:04 AM Re: Knives
Fighting Dwarf Offline
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Registered: 03/27/03
Posts: 322
Loc: UK
Ed, I for one don't regret it at all. At least in the UK we don't have drive by shootings everyday and metal detectors installed in schools.
And surely if you carry a screwdriver around in your briefcase with the specific purpose of using it as a weapon, that would be illegal too? Mr V?

-Charlie

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#93482 - 06/26/03 04:56 AM Re: Knives
Jim Offline
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Registered: 10/12/01
Posts: 302
Loc: Munich
Mr V I am from the UK too, live in Germany now. I meant the other side of the water, sorry.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ed Glasheen:
I regret that you all allowed your goverment to take away your right to bear arms. [/QUOTE]

Amendment II

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Article II sounds more like to the right to have an Assault rifle at home and be called upon to do military service, not the right to wonder round with a switch blade.

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#93483 - 06/26/03 07:49 AM Re: Knives
Ed Glasheen Offline
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Actually our founding fathers put that into our constitution to make sure we could take up arms against an unjust government. Like say if Hilary became president and wanted to castrate all males. One reason why Hitler band personal weapons in the 30's. We all know where that went. See any similarites. No Government or Police Force can fully protect it's citizens. But they can take your homiside report and tax your estate when you are gone. I belive in moral laws and all but not at the expense of my freedoms. Thats why we left England in the first place. Ed

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