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#93584 - 04/19/04 07:51 PM Re: Knives
JKogas Offline
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Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 10813
Loc: North Carolina
I don't carry one anymore really. I've come to the conclusion that for self-defense, there's not much reason to.

Carrying a blade with you will only serve to introduce a weapon into every encounter. Whether it be used by you or your opponent is beside the point.

Carrying a blade for an empty hand affair isn't something the courts would look favorably upon. You can get prison time that way.

Thinking that you can use a blade against another knifer isn't realistic from the stand-point that, a knifer who's after you for whatever reason, will not let you see the blade until it's too late (if you could see the blade to begin with, wouldn't it make more sense just to run??).

Most people don't realize what's going on until they've been hit by it anyway. Sometimes not even then. There have been occurrances where people felt like they had only taken a hard punch when being stabbed (not having seen the blade of course).

In my opinion, it makes more sense to train empty hand versus the blade, as that's a much more probable scenario than would be blade vs. blade. This ain't West-Side Story...


-John

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#93585 - 04/20/04 01:28 AM Re: Knives
still wadowoman Offline
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Registered: 04/10/04
Posts: 3420
Loc: Residence:UK- Heart:Md, USA
I agree that it is more useful from a practical point of view to train empty handed against a weapon (especially in UK where we can not carry weapons anyway), but I still enjoy training with weapons.

Sharon

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#93586 - 04/20/04 07:30 AM Re: Knives
Yoseikan Student Offline
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Registered: 05/02/03
Posts: 1166
Loc: UK
[QUOTE]Originally posted by JKogas:
I don't carry one anymore really. I've come to the conclusion that for self-defense, there's not much reason to.

Carrying a blade with you will only serve to introduce a weapon into every encounter. Whether it be used by you or your opponent is beside the point.

Carrying a blade for an empty hand affair isn't something the courts would look favorably upon. You can get prison time that way.

Thinking that you can use a blade against another knifer isn't realistic from the stand-point that, a knifer who's after you for whatever reason, will not let you see the blade until it's too late (if you could see the blade to begin with, wouldn't it make more sense just to run??).

Most people don't realize what's going on until they've been hit by it anyway. Sometimes not even then. There have been occurrances where people felt like they had only taken a hard punch when being stabbed (not having seen the blade of course).

In my opinion, it makes more sense to train empty hand versus the blade, as that's a much more probable scenario than would be blade vs. blade. This ain't West-Side Story...


-John
[/QUOTE]

Good post

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#93587 - 04/21/04 08:50 PM Re: Knives
JKogas Offline
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Registered: 01/25/03
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Sharon --

Oh I like training with weapons as well. It's great fun and is useful in many ways. I train single stick which is in most ways, identical to knife work (the stick being simply a long knife). It's enjoyable, but once I ALMOST pulled a knife on someone I was have face-to-face with. I had the knife in my pocket (a clipit) and thought about drawing it. Needless to say I'm glad I didn't. It would have only caused a bad situation to get worse.

The thing is, just carrying that blade presents that very sort of temptation to draw it when things like a simple exchange of words occurrs. From that day on I never carried one again.

Now days, I work tirelessly on my empty hand game. It takes so much time just to perfect that, that I don't have the time to do much of anything else.

Take care all,

-John

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#93588 - 10/31/08 09:27 PM Re: Knives [Re: Ed Glasheen]
kempo223 Offline
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Registered: 10/31/08
Posts: 2
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I hope you find your head horseman. I didn't say I would go up against an M-16 at 500 yards dumbass. But up close, the knife rules! But I have to remind myself of the forum preschool MA's who do most of the posting. I'm sharing my experience with you all. Sorry if you don't like it. I can assure its real. But hey how many of you have even been outside of your own country. Watching TV does not count. Ed


This guy is a real [censored]!!!

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#93589 - 11/01/08 01:57 PM Re: Knives [Re: Ed Glasheen]
oldsteel68 Offline
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Registered: 11/01/08
Posts: 4
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Since this is a passionate topic, What knife do you prefer to carry?

I carry a Benchmade 9050 or a Gerber Yari. Ed




I carry a standard easy open pocket knife. Blade in under 4' as that is the maximum size allowed in my city.

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#93590 - 11/04/08 10:31 PM Re: Knives [Re: oldsteel68]
Ilove2Hit Offline
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Registered: 10/02/08
Posts: 264
Loc: Athens, Greece
2 butterfly knivs
2 iron fists
1 magnum 44
1 9mm
1 saw-off shotgun
1 chain
gloves with quecksilver at the knuckels
a ring with a spike so i can crack what i am hitting (just in case i am not fast enough to pull a knive or a gun or smthg)
and i got some metal plates in the front of my shoes in order to be able to kick harder.

why just carry a knive? ..
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#93591 - 11/05/08 03:22 AM Re: Knives [Re: Ilove2Hit]
BrianS Offline
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 5959
Loc: Northwest Arkansas
Quote:

2 butterfly knivs
2 iron fists
1 magnum 44
1 9mm
1 saw-off shotgun
1 chain
gloves with quecksilver at the knuckels
a ring with a spike so i can crack what i am hitting (just in case i am not fast enough to pull a knive or a gun or smthg)
and i got some metal plates in the front of my shoes in order to be able to kick harder.

why just carry a knive? ..




Really? A sawed off shotgun? What brand? How short is the barrel? Did you cut it off?

What kind of .44 or 9mm?

Why do you need all the other sutff and guns?
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#93592 - 11/06/08 08:39 AM Re: Knives [Re: BrianS]
JoelM Offline
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Registered: 07/26/04
Posts: 6355
Loc: Georgia, USA
Because he's playing Doom, Brian. Why else? The hardest part is pressing the right number button to get the correct weapon to draw, because if you pull out a chain when you're up against the boss on level 3, then you're toast (tip: hit #7 for the shotgun instead)
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#93593 - 11/06/08 11:18 AM Re: Knives [Re: JoelM]
butterfly Offline
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Registered: 08/25/04
Posts: 3012
Loc: Torrance, CA
Doom.....

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