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#93454 - 06/24/03 11:29 AM Knives
Ed Glasheen Offline
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Registered: 06/21/03
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Since this is a passionate topic, What knife do you prefer to carry?

I carry a Benchmade 9050 or a Gerber Yari. Ed

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#93455 - 06/24/03 12:31 PM Re: Knives
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None

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#93456 - 06/24/03 01:19 PM Re: Knives
MrVigerous Offline
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Also none as in the UK its illegal to carry any bladed instrument that has a fixed or lockable blade or indeed any bladed instrument with a blade over 3 inches long without lawful excuse. Even a scalpel which is within the strict limits would require justification if you were caught carrying it in a public place. That being said and for the purposes of the question, a Cold Steel Tanto or a Spyderco Gunting.

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#93457 - 06/24/03 01:57 PM Re: Knives
Fighting Dwarf Offline
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Also none. Quite apart from the legal issues, the obvious disadvantages of carrying a knife (or any other weapon) are 1) it means you have to be prepared to use it, which I'm not; and 2) it gives an unarmed attacker something to take and use against you.

-Charlie

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#93458 - 06/24/03 03:21 PM Re: Knives
judderman Offline
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I often wonder about this.

I understand the logic of carrying an equaliser, but I also wonder does such a thing increase the tendancy towards aggression?

Is someone carrying a weapon going to be less likely to use other forms of defense?

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I can't be arsed to post a new topic.

Budo.

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#93459 - 06/24/03 03:54 PM Re: Knives
xerxes Offline
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Judderman,

Does a police officer who is carrying a pistol have a greater tendency toward aggression just because he has a weapon? Not necessarily. Does his carrying of a baton make him more aggressive? Not necessarily. The same concept holds true for a civilian as well. It is all a matter of the personality of the individual. The weapon doesn't "hypnotise" someone into being aggressive.

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#93460 - 06/24/03 03:55 PM Re: Knives
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also none due to law in UK.
Sharon

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#93461 - 06/24/03 04:08 PM Re: Knives
JohnL Offline
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While carrying a weapon does not make you more aggresive, it does create an increased probability of escalation.

ie;
Guy 1 starts shouting at guy 2.
Guy 2 shouts back.
Guy 1 adopts an aggresive pose ready to hit.
Guy 2 does the same.
Guy 1 pulls his knife.
Guy 2 pulls his knife
Guy 1's friends pull their knives.
etc.

While not having a knife may not be the best when the other guy has one, at least it can help to prevent the escalation of force.
In addition, regardless of who pulls the knife first, when the police arrest all concerned, it won't matter, everyones going to jail for a long time.

Johnl

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#93462 - 06/24/03 06:11 PM Re: Knives
Ender Offline
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Registered: 04/29/03
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I vary. I see both sides of the arguement on this one. I SOMETIMES carry a knife in an ankle sheathe (6 inch hunting knife) as a last resort tactic, and carry it when I have to go through rough areas (and when its unavoidable to NOT go through these areas), but I also see that this can invite trouble and can possibly escalate violence.

Then again, as its been said, Id rather be tried by 12 than buried by 6. If push comes to shove, and all other options expended, Ill pull it out if I have it. It's been talked about that defense against an armed attacker is damn HARD, and when ehs got a few friends? I'd say thats asituation where, if i cant run, and im unarmed, and theyre all armed, Id say thats a damn desperate situation. In which case, I would rather take a few of them with me or take a hostage if I can.

It may be illegal, but it just might keep me alive.

I'm not a violent person, but I trust my own judgement, and thats all any of us really have to rely on.

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#93463 - 06/24/03 10:32 PM Re: Knives
Jamoni Offline
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Registered: 01/17/03
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Loc: St. Louis, MO, USA
I have two knives I carry regularly. One is a Spyderco Delica. Nice, cheap, leagal, and cuts through steel cable (ONCE.) The other is a Buck Crosslock. Also inexpensive, legal, but don't know about steel cables. I have carried a Cold Steel Bushmaster while camping, and an Air force vietnam era survival type knife (it looks like a short K-Bar with a deeper belly. Great knife) in the field. Fighting Dwarf, I applaud you for your first point. JohnL, please just post to the huge threads that already cover this, Ender, I hope you live long enough and avoid prison long enough to stop being a danger to yourself.

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