Well chokes are a different matter and to be honest the topic of this post does imply punching. However to take up your comment about kicks, most people don't kick nearly hard enough to the head to knock someone out. Compared to punches ive seen VERY few people cleaned out with a head kick, especialy a side snap or thrust kick as you suggest. Ok it might break teeth or a nose but unless the opponent is walking right onto it, im very sceptical about this being a prime knockout technique. Further more as this is a self defence forum, what would anyone be doing kicking to the head in a self defence scenario?

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Mr V

Chen Zen.

What do you mean by "Triangle chokes"

Im not familiar with that term, is it Judo`s Augmented strangle form behind?

Sorry to be so dim

Lol

Mark

Most people do not you are correct Mr.V but a TKD artist should easily have the power to do so as it is his primary weapon. As for self defense, Tkd is effective if taught and used properly and I have no qualms about using these techniques ina real situation.As for the post referring to punches I was simply making a point, a technique that ko's. Now if you said a PUNCH wont ko someone everytime I would have agreed whole heartidly.As for the side kick I refer to watch Bruce Lee use a stepping side kick effectively. Tons of power from a 140 pond frame. As for triangle chokes Mark, I do not know the holds and chokes of judo only the throws but it is a technique used in Brazilian Jujutsu. The opponents arm is brought up above there head and the legs form around the arm and neck of the opponent forming a triangle and then with pressure it chokes them out. It is for ground fighting.

thanks Chen Zen.

Sounds good..and nicely painfull!

Mark

Very effective and painful especially if you can work in a wrist lock on the arm that is pinned.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chen Zen:
Very effective and painful especially if you can work in a wrist lock on the arm that is pinned.[/QUOTE]

For the sake of education could you explain how the wrist lock would augment the effect of the choke?

Budo.

It is not going to directly effect the choke but if you keep ahold of the wrist it is less likely that they will pull there arm out of the hold or try things like pinching.Also if they manage to remove there head then you can still maintain control and trasition to another technique with the wrist lock applied.

this is actuALLY FUNNY, ahh I have boxed for many many years, never had any significant injuries, last weekend was camping some drunk start talking [censored] i threw 3 punch combo hook to the jaw with my right straight to the jaw with my left and anothe straight to the jaw with my right. didn't KO him, prob. because he was drunk not sure but in result broke my finger .So be carefull whrn you hit some one in the jaw!!!

If you want to use your boxing experience to ko drunk people who talk smack then you have a lot of work to do.

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