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#92385 - 04/23/05 07:06 PM Re: Boxing vs. Wing Chun
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If the wing chun student has to fight using "boxing rules" , ie gloves, no kicking, grabbing, etc. he's gonna get his butt handed to him. Wing Chun has great hand techniques, but boxers train exclusively with their hands, unless you count Tyson's biting as a technique [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif[/IMG].

The WC guy would have to have his hands free, no gloves, in order to effectively incorporate sticky hand principles. Plus, if he just continually kicked the crap out of the boxer's knees, that might tip the odds in his favor too.

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#92386 - 04/23/05 07:35 PM Re: Boxing vs. Wing Chun
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sticking hands. you don't use sticking hands in wing chun when your fighting that's just to get you used to following someone else's movements

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#92387 - 04/25/05 12:17 PM Re: Boxing vs. Wing Chun
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This is off the subject but, for those of you in any of these forums Im sorry about the spelling of my name I must have been trying to fast and didnt check my spelling of my name. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG] is there any way to correct it?

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#92388 - 04/26/05 04:51 AM Re: Boxing vs. Wing Chun
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by UofM Shorin Ryu:
If the wing chun student has to fight using "boxing rules" , ie gloves, no kicking, grabbing, etc. he's gonna get his butt handed to him.[/QUOTE]

Have you done wing chun. Even in the straight blast, gloves are cumbersome.
To say that a WC guy would get his but handed to him fighting boxing by a boxer is the most stupid thing I have ever heard in my entire life. It should probably go in that other thread by Jkogas about stupid people.
I play tennis, you dont play tennis.
If you play tennis with me I will whip you!
REALLY???? bloody genius!

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#92389 - 04/26/05 09:59 AM Re: Boxing vs. Wing Chun
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This is obviously a sticky subject every system has strengths and weakness. Having any play to the others strength would weaken it. And the systems really don't need defending.

Adding boxing or Wing Chun or both to your aresnal would only help you just like adding Judo or Aikido or anything thats would widen your horizon. By understanding how an Art works and its techniques will help you defend and mount an offensive against.

There are no superior Styles only superior Practictioners. Its Dedication that counts not uniforms or boxing trunks.

Personally I like people thinking, Oh, he is this style or from this system, he can't or won't do this or that. I won't argue or explain I just wait. Because Surprises!!!

Of course this is sparring or rolling. Because in the street it doesn't matter what style or what Rank or Who U are, it matters if it works, right now!!

[This message has been edited by Neko456 (edited 04-26-2005).]

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#92390 - 04/26/05 11:01 AM Re: Boxing vs. Wing Chun
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MAGr:
Have you done wing chun. Even in the straight blast, gloves are cumbersome.
To say that a WC guy would get his but handed to him fighting boxing by a boxer is the most stupid thing I have ever heard in my entire life. It should probably go in that other thread by Jkogas about stupid people.
I play tennis, you dont play tennis.
If you play tennis with me I will whip you!
REALLY???? bloody genius!

[/QUOTE]

WOW. You woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. So get back in, take a nap, and exit on the RIGHT side. Yes, it is a blatantly obvious comment, but what isn't obvious is what the fight entails. No holds barred? Gloves? Ring? Shirts? Weapons? What are the rules of the fight? Those will all make a difference as to the outcome.

I really do appreciate your smart ass comment though, shows me how much character and grace you have. Do you treat everyone this way, or are you only a jackass on internet forums?

And yes, I have done Wing Chun.

As a sidenote, shouldn't this thread be closed anyways? It's one of those VS threads that no one can really answer anyways. It's the practicioner, not the art!

[This message has been edited by UofM Shorin Ryu (edited 04-26-2005).]

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#92391 - 04/26/05 11:07 AM Re: Boxing vs. Wing Chun
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by UofM Shorin Ryu:
. No holds barred? Gloves? Ring? Shirts? Weapons? What are the rules of the fight? Those will all make a difference as to the outcome.
[/QUOTE]

I m sorry if i misunderstood, but you said in a ring with gloves and boxers rules. Isnt that what you said?
You didnt give a free scenario. You specifically said boxers rules!
In that scenario, your point is moot.
It just doesnt hold!

And if you have done wing chun, then you know that you cant do the chain punches with boxers gloves, they are just to big!

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#92392 - 04/26/05 11:39 AM Re: Boxing vs. Wing Chun
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MAGr:

And if you have done wing chun, then you know that you cant do the chain punches with boxers gloves, they are just to big!

[/QUOTE]

THAT was my point. If the WC guy has to wear boxing gloves, his ability to fight will be severly hampered. If the WC guy is not allowed to kick, his ability to fight will be hampered. If he's not allowed to grab..etc.

But if he is allowed to kick, grab, eye poke, groin shots, no gloves, whatever, he will be able to use what he learned more effectively.

It depends if this fight is designed to use street fight concepts, where anything goes, or if there will be rules with a ref to watch.

But in the end it doesn't even matter, because it is skills and strengths of the practicioner, not the art that will determine the winner.

For someone who posts as much as you do, you should know that personal attacks aren't allowed on this forum. Check your attitude at the door if you want to have an intelligent conversation.

[This message has been edited by UofM Shorin Ryu (edited 04-26-2005).]

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#92393 - 04/26/05 11:51 AM Re: Boxing vs. Wing Chun
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Dont be so touchy.
Ok, what you say is true, but what is your point?

We are talking about self defence, not tournaments were a WC guy enters a boxing competition.
In self defence the WC has more options, and therefore is practicing a defending style that is conceptualy superior.
You admitted that. So what is your point?

That in a boxing match a boxer would win?
We know that.
That you have something to gain from studying boxing?
I agree if that is what you were trying to say.

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#92394 - 04/26/05 12:22 PM Re: Boxing vs. Wing Chun
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Fine, a self-defense situation. Who would win, in an anything goes fight on the streets, a WC practicioner, or a boxer.

The answer: The one who is better at what he does.

I disagree with the comment that WC is better for sd than boxing conceptually, as stated many times before by various individuals on different threads, it is the artist, not the art.

To compare 2 legit arts in their abilities to teach SD is like apples and oranges, both are good.

Wc and boxing would each add some techniques to your sd game, and at the same time, both have weaknesses.

Hasn't this thread been locked yet? It's a VS thread for pete's sakes!

On a more interesting topic, Superman vs Ultraman, who would win?

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