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#92266 - 05/27/03 08:22 AM Re: Nunchuka is there a defence?
Kotetsu Offline
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Registered: 04/17/03
Posts: 314
Loc: Hollis, NH, USA
I like the throwing rocks idea. But running is the best idea. Unless of course you have a big sword in your pocket.

P.S. Please no sick inuendo comments, you can take it that way but don't talk about it.

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#92267 - 05/27/03 11:41 AM Re: Nunchuka is there a defence?
Lo C'hi Offline
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Registered: 10/27/02
Posts: 88
Loc: L.I.,N.Y.
While the end of the nunchakus do have considerable force, near the connecting chain or rope there is much less. If the attacker is making wide swings it is not that difficult to time.
Even a person who seems proficient with nunchakus (fast multi level figure 8's, changing hands)would lose most of their speed and accuracy when the nunchakus hit something and recoil. So I try to move behind a lightpost, car, grab a garbage pail cover or take off your jacket and use that to interrupt their timing then counter.
I prefer to use nunchakus as a short staff (holding both together) that I can use to block and wrap around the attacker's arm or neck.
I do not consider them a good offensive weapon, but I do like to work out with them to increase shoulder strength and to practice keeping my free hand in a guard position (those darn things hurt if you hit yourself).
Same principle for a baseball bat , attack near the hands and a disarm is very possible.

Train hard and be well.

[This message has been edited by Lo C'hi (edited 05-27-2003).]

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#92268 - 06/01/03 10:33 AM Re: Nunchuka is there a defence?
mark Offline
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Registered: 03/04/03
Posts: 1284
Loc: uk
Very disappointed in Khayman, who hasn’t entered this debate.

He is about the best person I know with the “chucks, and I can tell you, NO empty had defence would work if he went for you. Not sure anything would! [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

As for Lo Chi`s comment:- “Even a person who seems proficient with nunchakus (fast multi level figure 8's, changing hands)would lose most of their speed and accuracy when the nunchakus hit something and recoil”
Err! no they wouldn’t, and the recoil is part of the next move….and if this recoil was against your head I don’t think there would be a next move on your part…..


But once again we confuse the big open dojo and your ready for it defences against training partners that are “ playing the game” with the real world, where most often there is no reaction time and we get caught be the first strike before we realise it is ”game on”


Mark

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#92269 - 06/02/03 10:53 AM Re: Nunchuka is there a defence?
Khayman Offline
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Registered: 03/05/03
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Loc: Wiltshire, UK
After that introduction I thought id better reply, thanks Mark for the kind words.
Nunchaku has been a favourate of mine for many years.
Let me first explain there is a difference between combat nunchaku and the flashy kata demonstrations we see today.
Many practitioners train in front of a mirror learning to bascially juggle with the chucks, after a few months they can look bloody impressive it dosnt mean they are adept at using the weapon to fight with. That said it doesnt take long to become proficient with these weapons, in the late 70's many gangs used this weapon as it is so easy to learn, in unskilled hands a blow from the weapon can cause nasty injuries.
In skilled hands the chucks can fly very fast, if the exponent has practised against a heavy bag and trained to actually hit with the weapon its very hard to defend against. Mark is right, a missed or deflected technique can easily be redirected either bouncing the chucks off your opponent or off parts of your own body and retargeting.
Obviously if someone pulls chucks on you and you are outside the arc of the weapon running is the best option always. Otherwise an equaliser, preferably something longer than the arc of the weapon to keep distance.
empty hand against nunchuka - I would cover up and basically blitz. Accept a hit on the body if you have to and get in close, real close for a grapple, isolating the arm weilding the chucks. Traditional blocks are pretty much useless, if you block the weapon against your arm with force you will probably break your arm, if your get inside and block the attacking arm the chucks can still arc round and hit you.

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#92270 - 06/02/03 12:46 PM Re: Nunchuka is there a defence?
JohnL Offline
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Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 4309
Loc: NY, NY, USA
Defence against nunchuks is the same as defence against any other weapon or even someone without a weapon.

Timing and Distance

JohnL

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#92271 - 06/02/03 02:12 PM Re: Nunchuka is there a defence?
mark Offline
sword of magnamity

Registered: 03/04/03
Posts: 1284
Loc: uk
ROFLMAO,

John L, insightful comment, it all seems so easy now! :d

Mark

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#92272 - 06/03/03 05:04 AM Re: Nunchuka is there a defence?
JKogas Offline
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Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 10818
Loc: North Carolina
Sure, pull a 9mm on the fools ass and watch as his jeans develop a dark stain around the crotch.

Otherwise, as JohnL said, timing and distance. As in, a LOT of distance....RUN!

-John

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#92273 - 06/15/03 10:48 AM Re: Nunchuka is there a defence?
Shadowfax Offline
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Registered: 10/08/01
Posts: 296
Loc: Mason City, IA
Call the psych ward? Anyone who runs around attacking people with weapons like that has watched WAY too many Bruce Lee movies [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif[/IMG]

seriously though, a pipe or a stick can trap the nunchaku.

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#92274 - 06/15/03 11:51 AM Re: Nunchuka is there a defence?
kempo_jujitsu Offline
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Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 1914
Loc: illinois, usa
i would treat it like any other medium length weapon attack...a swing is a swing..whether its from a club or nunchuka (which are illegal here so i am not the least bit worried about it) if you are in close he cant swing it can he...youll probably get hit on the way in but hey..nothin is perfect lol

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#92275 - 06/15/03 04:55 PM Re: Nunchuka is there a defence?
mark Offline
sword of magnamity

Registered: 03/04/03
Posts: 1284
Loc: uk
May the "real world" never catch up with you...

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