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#91514 - 02/07/03 04:07 PM Re: The one punch kill - potential concern
roundhouser Offline

Registered: 01/09/03
Posts: 96
Loc: melbourne
2 days ago i was playing football and then the guy that takled obviously didnt like me takling him so he punched me five times in the head and the first punch KOed me for a few seconds and gave me brief amnesia but wen i woke up he was still punchin me and i olny got mild concussion and he punched me in the back of the head the nose the cheek and the side ofmy head twice and it wasnt just weak hits they were full on so i thought that my little experince might be of some helpfulness to you in the way of how hard you need to be hit for somethin bad to happen.

#91515 - 02/07/03 05:16 PM Re: The one punch kill - potential concern
MrVigerous Offline
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Registered: 04/17/01
Posts: 2498
Loc: UK
I certainly take your point but thankfully you don't have a previously unknown congential condition that led to serious damage or death. Some other people out there do and they don't even know it. One hard punch and they are dead. Bad for them certainly but potentialy also bad for someone who was merely defending themselves and hit them.

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#91516 - 02/08/03 12:14 AM Re: The one punch kill - potential concern
roundhouser Offline

Registered: 01/09/03
Posts: 96
Loc: melbourne
point taken

#91517 - 02/08/03 01:17 AM Re: The one punch kill - potential concern
wengchunmike Offline

Registered: 02/07/03
Posts: 2
Loc: phil
you what to make it simple and easy to understand,hitting your opponents body regardless of which target is not a joke,every strike is fatal and effective it only depends on your body momentum..understand your body mechanism your weakness and your limitations..hope you understand what im trying to point out..good luck!

#91518 - 02/09/03 01:28 AM Re: The one punch kill - potential concern
mikelw Offline

Registered: 11/15/02
Posts: 1031
Loc: Bothell, Washington (not DC), ...
if you get hit in the sternum or anywhere there is BONE, its gonna hurt really, really bad (unless you do iron shirt or something liek it). Don't go gettin punched in the kidneys either. Or the ribs. The body is a good target unless you just go for the abdominal section where all the muscles are.

But gettin hit in the head is much more disorienting. It can also be more painful, because think about it....who conditions their head??? (besides a boxer or martial artist...)

#91519 - 03/02/03 06:07 PM Re: The one punch kill - potential concern
john Offline

Registered: 03/01/03
Posts: 14
Loc: clarkston,mi,us
The head is too hard. Why not go for soft tissue areas. One punch kill? The throat.
You want to end a fight before it begins? A blade edge strike to the side of the neck right below the jaw. You will daze or ko your opponent.

#91520 - 03/05/03 01:01 AM Re: The one punch kill - potential concern
mark Offline
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Registered: 03/04/03
Posts: 1284
Loc: uk
in the "heat" of the moment can you only hit and aggressor "a little" enough to stop them?
Or will it be " tally ho chaps" and full power to the chin?
If you dont hit full power .will it stop them?

horrible legal complications i agree.

But a very famous quote springs to mind...
" better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6"

As a yellow belt in any martial art, a jury will consider you an expert (i have been there ) not much fun

#91521 - 03/22/03 08:35 PM Re: The one punch kill - potential concern
Karate Teen Offline

Registered: 03/21/03
Posts: 60
While I agree that about the need to defend oneself, most people that you will run into will not be looking to cream you. Mostly, a good self-defense technique can be done that will leave an attacker totally in your power. For instance, parrying a punch aside, slipping an arm under theirs, and sliding behind for a choke hold. Then you can lean them backwards onto the ground when safe. Just a thought.

#91522 - 03/22/03 09:07 PM Re: The one punch kill - potential concern
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Registered: 03/05/03
Posts: 472
Loc: Brockton
When I fought two people over the issue over freedom many years ago, I used minimum force and did use the carotid sinus strike. The same strike at a different artery with rings of bone around it could have killed him ,I would understand. The point is that in the coming days he wanted to be my friend and never caused any more problems. Certainly there are more people like him that would start a fight by being a bully. Certainly, as I wasn't being hit at all, he did run away to get a knife. The point is no one got hurt and I didn't ruin my future. By the way the only injury I had was my elbow when I hit my funny bone on the head of the guy behind me. It was then that I told the guy behind me to let go or I would have to hurt him. I was prepared to do the groin grab if he didn't let go. It was then I jogged away and went to the police.

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