FightingArts Estore
Pressure Points
From a medical professional, straight facts on where and how to hit that can save your life.
Stretching
Limber or not, anyone can add height and speed to their kicks with this method.
Calligraphy
For yourself or as a gift, calligraphy is special, unique and lasting.
Karate Uniforms
Look your best. Max snap. low cost & superior crafted: “Peak Performance Gold” 16 oz uniforms.

MOTOBU
Classic book translation. Hard to find. Not in stores.
Who's Online
0 registered (), 42 Guests and 3 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
old1, Leonar, ManLar, Vimido, raya
22925 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
futsaowingchun 4
Ronin1966 3
GojuRyuboy13 2
Matakiant 1
cxt 1
October
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
New Topics
The Classic Pak Sao drill
by futsaowingchun
10/20/14 10:32 AM
wing chun kicks and knees
by futsaowingchun
10/09/14 12:55 AM
2014 European Championships Juniors: the Gallery
by ergees
10/05/14 10:56 AM
Tan,Bong,Fuk & Wu Sao
by futsaowingchun
09/30/14 12:10 AM
Living a full life violence free...
by GojuRyuboy13
09/25/14 08:50 AM
Wing Chun-internal training
by futsaowingchun
09/23/14 09:01 PM
Martial News
by Matakiant
09/23/14 06:42 AM
An open letter to bunkai researchers...
by Bartfast
08/05/14 04:18 PM
The Karate punch
by Matakiant
10/30/13 07:41 AM
Leo's Judo Journal
by Leo_E_49
01/24/12 02:58 AM
Recent Posts
Living a full life violence free...
by GojuRyuboy13
Today at 07:20 AM
The Classic Pak Sao drill
by futsaowingchun
10/20/14 10:32 AM
Leo's Judo Journal
by swordy
10/11/14 09:21 AM
The Karate punch
by Ronin1966
10/09/14 03:16 PM
wing chun kicks and knees
by futsaowingchun
10/09/14 12:55 AM
An open letter to bunkai researchers...
by Ronin1966
10/08/14 09:22 PM
2014 European Championships Juniors: the Gallery
by ergees
10/05/14 10:56 AM
** Introduce Yourself! **
by AndyLA
10/04/14 10:20 AM
Tan,Bong,Fuk & Wu Sao
by futsaowingchun
09/30/14 12:10 AM
Wing Chun-internal training
by futsaowingchun
09/23/14 09:01 PM
Forum Stats
22925 Members
36 Forums
35582 Topics
432510 Posts

Max Online: 424 @ 09/24/13 10:38 PM
Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 >
Topic Options
#91472 - 04/16/02 04:21 AM Re: driving the nose bone into the brain.... myth?
omegapoint Offline
Member

Registered: 02/24/01
Posts: 150
Like 'Wolf said- 100% myth! A severly broken nose can often begin to end a fight. I've seen these types of strikes decide who was the arse kicker and who was the kickee in a street fight! Ouch!

Top
#91473 - 05/02/02 05:58 PM Re: driving the nose bone into the brain.... myth?
Alejandro Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 05/02/02
Posts: 940
Loc: Las Cruces, NM USA
Wow! What a lot of different opinions! Well, my opinion is that it is possible! Enough upward force to the bottom of the nose can shatter the bone, and yes, the cavity does connect to the brain, so why wouldn't fragments of bone be sent into the brain??!

Top
#91474 - 05/03/02 06:28 PM Re: driving the nose bone into the brain.... myth?
MrVigerous Offline
Former Administrator

Registered: 04/17/01
Posts: 2498
Loc: UK
Because there is more bone in between your fragments and the old grey matter. It is not just cartilage with your brain floating happily behind it. I am 100 % convinvinced that this is impossible to achieve with an anatomicaly normal human. If it were possible, professional boxers would be dropping dead like flies from taking uppercuts that connect with the point of the nose. I am willing to concede that if you used a sledge hammer you might have some joy, but otherwise i dont think you can hit hard enough to break through the intervening bone mass.

Regds

Top
#91475 - 05/04/02 10:27 AM Re: driving the nose bone into the brain.... myth?
Shadowfax Offline
Member

Registered: 10/08/01
Posts: 296
Loc: Mason City, IA
Well, you CAN break the nose in such a way that fragments could potentially get into the brain. You have to first do a side strike (as in a backfist to the bridge of the nose) - -that breaks the bone, at which point a palmheel would send it up and backwards. Problem is I have never seen evidence that this would KILL someone- - at best it might remove their sense of smell or some higher reasoning functions. You'll be sending these bone fragments into the base of the front and bottom of the brain. The olfactory tract and olfactory bulb are there so it's possible you could sever the olfactory tract and remove their ability to smell things. I suppose you could also hit the cortex at which point they might have some psychological programs- - -but the stuff that regulates life itself - -heartbeat, breathing, etc. . you'd have to drive those nose fragments way back into the rear of the brain - -to do that you'd have to get a sledge hammer and bash his face in. . .

I think this myth arose from the idea that if you stab something into the brain it WILL cause death. That idea is wrong, as a British railroad worker was good enough to prove when he somehow managed to drive a railroad spike through his head. He survived, but the spike went through the areas that control personality, and from what I've read it turned him into a royal jerk.

Top
#91476 - 06/16/03 03:08 PM Re: driving the nose bone into the brain.... myth?
llnohmrel Offline
Newbie

Registered: 05/23/03
Posts: 20
when i started isshin ryu i was given a handbook. it lists five areas to kill:
- spine
- kidney
- heart
- nose
- temple.

After nose it says to strike in an upward motion with a palm heel. shards of nose go spike the brain. brain dies.

Top
#91477 - 06/16/03 04:20 PM Re: driving the nose bone into the brain.... myth?
MrVigerous Offline
Former Administrator

Registered: 04/17/01
Posts: 2498
Loc: UK
Er well if you are ever short of kindling to start a fire id suggest you turn to that handbook then.

Regds
Mr V

Top
#91478 - 06/16/03 06:36 PM Re: driving the nose bone into the brain.... myth?
JohnL Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 4309
Loc: NY, NY, USA
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MrVigerous:
Er well if you are ever short of kindling to start a fire id suggest you turn to that handbook then.

Regds
Mr V
[/QUOTE]

Damn. You beat me to it [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

Top
#91479 - 06/16/03 08:44 PM Re: driving the nose bone into the brain.... myth?
Ender Offline
Professional Poster

Registered: 04/29/03
Posts: 2253
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Youve lost your touch, JohnL!

Mr. Moderator beat yah to the punchline.



[This message has been edited by Ender (edited 06-16-2003).]

Top
#91480 - 06/17/03 09:06 AM Re: driving the nose bone into the brain.... myth?
Kotetsu Offline
Member

Registered: 04/17/03
Posts: 314
Loc: Hollis, NH, USA
The nose is almost completely composed of cartilage, thereby making it impossible to sove it into the brain. A blow that is hard enough to get it the far would just destroy the cartilage. Besides that the cartilage is attached to the skull. That being nose strikes still hurt and all but no kill.

Top
#91481 - 02/28/09 02:16 PM Re: driving the nose bone into the brain.... myth? [Re: mailorderkidney]
jgill12775 Offline
Stranger

Registered: 02/28/09
Posts: 1
I have just finished yet another book where the heroine female Rambo type escapes by driving her attacker's nasal bone into his brain. What a crock. I have been a surgical physician assistant for 34 years and a long time student of the martial arts. Absolutely impossible to kill anyone by this method. The anatomy of the skull won't allow you to do it. To get to the brain you would have to drive a very thin piece of bone through a very hard and thick piece of bone. Here is a little experiment - take a 1/16th inch thick piece of triangular shapped wood, it can even be a hard wood like oak, set the base of the triangle on a piece of 2X4 and taking another piece of 2X4 start tapping the pointed end (you don't even have to smash it - unless you just want to) What happens? It splinters and doesn't even scratch the 2X4 that you are trying to drive it into. However, it is an excellent technique to convience an attacker who has grabbed you, to let you go. You will break the thin nasal bones and he will be disoriented enough so that he will let you go long enough for you to depart the area.

Jim Gilliam, MPAS, PA-C
MEDICAL OFFICER
USNS ARCTIC T-AOE 8


Edited by jgill12775 (02/28/09 02:31 PM)

Top
Page 2 of 3 < 1 2 3 >


Moderator:  Cord, Dedicated1, MattJ, Reiki 




Action Ads
1.5 Million Plus Page Views
Monthly
Only $89
Details

Fight Videos
Night club fight footage and street fights captured with the world's first bouncer spy cam

How to Matrix!
Learn ten times faster with new training method. Learn entire arts for as little as $10 per disk.

Self Defense
Stun guns, pepper spray, Mace and self defense products. Alarms for personal and home use.

TASER MC26C
Stop An Urban Gorilla: Get 2 FREE TASER M26C Replacement Air Cartridges With Each New TASER M26C!

 

Unbreakable Unbrella

krav maga