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#91284 - 03/17/05 05:43 PM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique
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A properly formed technique and a forcful technique are by virtue, the same thing.

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#91285 - 03/18/05 10:38 AM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique
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I seen smaller people whip the crap out of bigger ones. Know how, Speed, accuracy and tenacity counts.

I'm 6'3 225lbs and I hate sparring or fighting smaller faster people and of course larger faster people as rare as that is.

Big large powerful slow people are no real challenge unless, they get lucky. In the past it seem that they get hit too often and too fast. And can't get up fast in most cases, thats bad news in a sf.

In fighting you if make a major mistake it can be an opening that can ruin your day.

I'm a heavyweight with middle weight speed and hw power so I can match well with most people. But a lighting fast light or middle weight with good power is someone to watchout for out of the gloves.

Little boxers with no power in their punch are in trouble, but the advantage of a Martial artist is I've never seen a small guy that couldn't hurt you with an headbutt, elbow, knee, head stomp or kick to the knee/groin/throat.

Its hard to avoid what you can barely see, and what you don't see is what hurts you.

Any real fighter can brace or turn out of the heavy slots that you can see or sense, but if you don't it hurts, your knees sag, you know the drill.

It's always been said that a good big man, will beat a good small man 9-10 times. But if the skill level is in favor of the smaller man, I think it evens the odds 6-4 smaller guy. There are some cases that sure weight can change the odds. But when you are talking Mid-size 150-170lbs men vs. the 210-300lbs men. There are some mid size guys that hit like the weigh 250lbs!

One of my Instructors would always say that in life as in fighting, the Matador does not always kill the Bull, the Bull sometimes gets his horn in.



[This message has been edited by Neko456 (edited 03-18-2005).]

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#91286 - 03/18/05 04:42 PM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique
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Isn't the purpose of technique (in striking arts) to increase the power of a strike? If so then someone who has natural strength in their strike can match someone who has less power but more technique. They are two sides of the same coin (but having both is better than having any individual one).

In grappling, because of leverage, imho technique outweighs strength in importance. However when evenly matched in technique, strength determines the outcome.

[This message has been edited by Leo_E_49 (edited 03-18-2005).]

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#91287 - 03/19/05 06:17 PM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique
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I'd have to go with Brute force. I knew this one kid in fifth grade who got into a fight and won because of strength. He smashed the kid's face off of a table and punched him a few times and he won. He recently tried to rob Papa Carones at the age of 16. Now he's under house arrest. Anyways he had a fight this year and smashed the kid because of his strength. Brute Force all the way.

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#91288 - 03/19/05 08:54 PM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique
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How about putting it this way:

Strength, speed and mass (natural body characteristics which can also be increased by training) determine the upper boundary of power in a technique. Skill determines how close to that upper boundary someone can get.

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#91289 - 03/20/05 06:27 AM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique
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Id say a combanation of both and speed too. I know someone that could kick serious ass at 300lbs, but when he got back down to 220lbs and still working out, he was a monster. Speed, power and technique all have a major roles, Just finding the best combanation of them is the hard part.

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