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#91264 - 12/23/02 02:12 PM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique
juliusj1n Offline

Registered: 12/21/02
Posts: 50
Loc: Ontario
If you can't hit your target, what good is power? Skill, speed, and power go hand in hand. Skill gives you the ability to efficiently fend off or mount an offensive. Speed is just how fast you can move. But, speed goes with power for more of a snapping punch which increases force. It's just a law of physics. It takes a lot of energy to get a fist moving at fast speed. When that energy connects with the opponent, the effects can be devastating... But, what I have learned is that most people don't properly channel their strength. But, a hard hit is a hard hit, and a fast fighter is a fast fighter, and a skilled fighter is a skilled fighter. All three together make one h%&! of an adversary. But the most important thing to me is is mental ability. If they have a strong enough mind, they can block out the pain, will an adrenaline rush, and strategize like nutz. If you don't agree, you don't agree, but this is just my opinion.

#91265 - 02/11/03 08:35 PM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique
Jamoni Offline

Registered: 01/17/03
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A civil war general said that the winner is "whoever gets there firstest with the mostest."
Don't fear a big man, or a fast man, or a man with great skill. But fear a big fast man with lots of skill.

#91266 - 02/12/03 12:49 AM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique
Budoka Offline

Registered: 05/26/02
Posts: 120
Loc: Frankston Victoria Australia
Balance + Technique + Breath + Speed + Acuracy = Power
I don't see how effective power can be generated without all of these 5 components.
Just My Opinion
Yours in Budo

#91267 - 02/12/03 03:40 AM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique
roundhouser Offline

Registered: 01/09/03
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Loc: melbourne
When i did TKD my instructor told me that speed is 3 times more powerful than explosiveness and speed comes with skill so i'd say use both but a skilled man would probably win.

#91268 - 02/12/03 06:32 PM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Budoka:
Balance + Technique + Breath + Speed + Acuracy = Power
I don't see how effective power can be generated without all of these 5 components.
Just My Opinion
Yours in Budo

did you forget about MUSCLE?

#91269 - 12/18/04 06:46 AM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique

brute force can help to a certain degree, but you must have speed, if you are quicker than your opponent he cannot hit you and you can hit him, there is no point in having strength if you cannot actually land a punch on someone, if you have a lower degree of strength but can land multiple simultaneous punches on the opponenet you can win, so i say speed and technique over braun

#91270 - 12/18/04 10:52 AM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique
Ed Glasheen Offline

Registered: 06/21/03
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Torque( Hips ) + weight = Power!

#91271 - 12/18/04 11:44 AM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique

Torque + weight + speed + proper body alignment = maximum power

#91272 - 12/18/04 12:24 PM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique

it doesn't matter how hard you hit if you can't hit your opponent. you shouldn't rely on strength alone to win a fight for you. You need to be observant in a fight. If a guy throws a really hard punch at you and you step to the side, you have the upper hand. He's off balanced, out of energy and he lost his control of the fight. Good luck trying to recover from that. It will be nearly impossible no matter how strong you are.
Your friend is probably a typical non-MA kid.


[This message has been edited by DullBlade42 (edited 12-18-2004).]

#91273 - 12/18/04 12:54 PM Re: Brute Force or Skillful Technique

I have always thought that experience is the best teacher, so I would say I favor skill over brute force any day. I would bet on a smaller skilled, experienced fighter over the big know absolutely nothing "hockey fighter" any day.

There is another component that comes with experience as well, or some are maybe born with it. That is the mental attitude of the fighter, inexperienced fighters tend to be more defensive of themselves and often even squeemish about hurting the other fighter as well.
The experienced fighter is not thinking about defence so much it is second nature to him to be covered up, and trying to strike from his "safe" stance. He knows wich stikes to take, wich to avoid and how etc.. He is thinking about hitting, not about being hit, and he expects to take a few along the way. It is a very important distinction, if you are thinking about getting hit you WILL get hit more often.
Experienced fighters will also keep going through a hard punch or kick. The less experienced guy is more likely to slow or at least flinch more. Many will simply duck and cover after recieving a hit that a more experienced fighter might not even notice.
I guess what I am saying is there is the FEAR factor, only experience will help with this area.

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