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#90833 - 01/14/03 01:58 AM Re: MULTIPLE ASSAILANT SELF-DEFENSE
roundhouser Offline
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Registered: 01/09/03
Posts: 96
Loc: melbourne
In a multiple assiliant fight you only fight 1 guy at a time just take them as they come and i recomend low fast kicks to the knees and groin that will slow them down and just take it from there. just a thought.

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#90834 - 01/14/03 08:14 AM Re: MULTIPLE ASSAILANT SELF-DEFENSE
CrimsonTiger Offline
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Registered: 12/04/02
Posts: 346
Ummmm...I'd never suggest flowery and flourish, even for intimidation purposes. If I drop your buddy quickly, then you're likely going to rethink things...regardless of how glossy my finishing technique was.

One thing I've found to be effective in multi-attacker situations is the use of distraction and peripheral vision. I almost never focus on any one attacker. In fact, in a multi-person "sparring" situation (when I was a green belt against a pairing of a blue and a brown), I made a point of intentionally focussing on the bluebelt and throwing my kicks at the brownbelt along my peripheral vision. I almost took the guy out on the first front-kick because he didn't even realize I was paying attention to him. In multiple attackers, I'd use all such distractions to my advantage. Yell, scream, stomp, KEEP MOVING and mix it up (and escape ASAP!)

Now to address the question of who to attack first...*shrug* There are conflicted schools of thought on this, and I think it's really a matter of strategic evaluation. If you're only looking to open an exit and escape, you take out the smallest/weakest link. However, if you think you may have to fight it out a bit, go after the largest threat first. You're fresh, you're focused, you're at your fighting best right at the start...you want to take out their strength while you are strong. That person is also likely the pack-leader (wolfpack mentality in most groups), watching their leader go down is a huge effect on the group morale.

All this being said, not matter how good you are, I wouldn't go trying to handle more than 2 or 3 opponents...none of this "fighting five men" crap. I don't care if you're friggin' Tito Ortiz (or whoever you want to claim is "the best" this week)...5 guys jumping you? You're going down. Run like a scared jackrabbit.

Regards,
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#90835 - 01/15/03 08:33 AM Re: MULTIPLE ASSAILANT SELF-DEFENSE
kempocos Offline
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Registered: 05/23/02
Posts: 516
Loc: flemington,nj,usa
Fight one at a time, break bones in the legs to keep them from coming. keep moving and look to escape. I feel that they will not wait and fight you one at a time, as menbtioned. I also feel trying to fight more than one at a time is asking for trouble, stamina plus just being overrun is an issue. all you need is one to pick up something and throw it at you and you are down. That is why break the legs and they are not a threat.

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#90836 - 01/19/03 09:46 AM Re: MULTIPLE ASSAILANT SELF-DEFENSE
gojuwarrior1 Offline
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Registered: 12/24/02
Posts: 1178
Loc: East Coast, USA
my sensei teaches us to keep your attackers in a staight line,keep the weaker guy between u and the others,then as u take the weak guy down move on,use only vital strikes (ears,knees,groin,ex.)because its not gonna be a walk in the park!its a tough job to keep a group of people in a single line,but after years of sparring like that u get the hang of it..

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#90837 - 01/19/03 10:34 AM Re: MULTIPLE ASSAILANT SELF-DEFENSE
Jamoni Offline
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Registered: 01/17/03
Posts: 1514
Loc: St. Louis, MO, USA
Keep moving, never turn your back on ANY opponents, and NEVER get between two or more opponents. Since multiple attackers definitely constitutes a life or death situation (unless you have an UZI), throat strikes with an open crescent hand are good stoppers. Knee kicks, great.
If one does grab you, he has to go down FAST. eye gouge is good for this.
Most powerful defense? RUN.

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#90838 - 01/20/03 04:45 PM Re: MULTIPLE ASSAILANT SELF-DEFENSE
theqwertyone Offline
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Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 30
http://www.sfdt.com/xiao-xiao/

check out number 3 for defence against multiple attackers. :-)

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#90839 - 03/26/03 02:26 PM Re: MULTIPLE ASSAILANT SELF-DEFENSE
Tkdstreetfighter88 Offline
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Registered: 03/24/03
Posts: 138
Loc: Ocala, Fl, USA
Yea, learning martial arts helped me alot when this group of people all tryed to jump me at once.
The trick is fighting in a circular like pattern, and use shots that will take them down fast so you can move to the next guy.
Beware of your surroundings, what each guy is doing.
Block, parry, move, and always be aggressor when striking.
If theres a rock or stick or anything lying around pick it up and start bashing faces.
If theres nothing around
like i said move to the next guy in a circular motion.
Poke one guy in the throat, break the next guys nose, kick em in the balls. after you get a good hit on one go to the next

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#90840 - 03/26/03 08:19 PM Re: MULTIPLE ASSAILANT SELF-DEFENSE
Scholar Offline
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Registered: 03/05/03
Posts: 472
Loc: Brockton
Manipulate the multible opponents so they get into each others way ie; sending into another or what I did turning with one guy on my back turning so between us then roundhouse to kidney area after as he went by.
Having your back against the wall so if they miss they break their hands.
Fighting with a comrade back to back against multible opponents.
Multiple opponents can constitue dealy force for that treat level responses by you check local laws.

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#90841 - 03/27/03 01:46 AM Re: MULTIPLE ASSAILANT SELF-DEFENSE
PsychedelicShogun Offline
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Registered: 03/19/03
Posts: 8
A note on grappling; obviously an attempt at a submission hold or a choke out is not the best strategy because it leaves you vulnerable. However that doesnt mean that grappling is totally without it's place. Quick breaks, projections, and leading techniques can all have tactical applications depending on the specifics of the attack.

I think the most important things have been said, namely to keep moving and do everything possible to prevent an assailant from circling behind you and try to take people out as quickly as possible. Or find a way to escape.

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#90842 - 03/27/03 04:58 AM Re: MULTIPLE ASSAILANT SELF-DEFENSE
Scholar Offline
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Registered: 03/05/03
Posts: 472
Loc: Brockton
When I've seen Kumite against Multible, The defender was breathing very fast in and out. Is this doing the wrong thing or is it bellows breathing to fan the fire/ rapid breathing to speed up the brain? On the street in that situation, I breathed normally and kept my wits about me.

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