If you are trying to tie Ki principals to western elemental philosophies (be it from an earth-based relogious POV) the closest element it can be tied to is "Spirit" not fire or water.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Energy Master:
No. Ki is not wind or fire. You can't convert it into anything. Ki is Ki (energy). That's it. There are some who think you can control elements like fire and wind. Wind is aerokenesis. Fire is Pyrokensis. Lifting things with your mind is telekensis. Changing your appearance is Biokensis. NOT ki. Ki flows through you. Fire, Ice wind and such don't. Oh yeah, Ice is cryokensis. I am not making this up this is what they are called. But I don't think they exist.

[/QUOTE]

google for these words its weird

Telekinesis is the movement of objects by scientifically inexplicable means, as by the exercise of an occult power. Psychokinesis is the production of motion in physical objects by the exercise of psychic or mental powers.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mtwoofwoof26:
Telekinesis is the movement of objects by scientifically inexplicable means, as by the exercise of an occult power. Psychokinesis is the production of motion in physical objects by the exercise of psychic or mental powers.[/QUOTE]

Ki is energy. Ki can be focused to create psi balls, also known as ki balls.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mtwoofwoof26:
Ki is energy. Ki can be focused to create psi balls, also known as ki balls. [/QUOTE]

Stop it.

Kempoman

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mtwoofwoof26:
Ki is energy. Ki can be focused to create psi balls, also known as ki balls. [/QUOTE]


Oh geez, not Ki balls again!?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mtwoofwoof26:
Telekinesis is the movement of objects by scientifically inexplicable means, as by the exercise of an occult power.[/QUOTE]

No. Telekenisis the name of the non-existant ability to move objects without physical force.

[QUOTE]Psychokinesis is the production of motion in physical objects by the exercise of psychic or mental powers.[/QUOTE]

No again. These are imagined abilities as no one has ever shown even the slightest ability to do either one.

Don't start with this C.R.A.P* again.


Thank you,
Kempoman
Moderator - Energy Arts
FightingArts.com

* Chi Related Asinine Post

Don't start with this C.R.A.P* again.

I second that motion.

P.S. Scott did you hear about John Harsey?

[This message has been edited by laf7773 (edited 06-08-2004).]

Ki means spirit in japanese so mostly it cant be fire or or wind or any elements it is the energy of ones self. That is the the simlest way to put it. I also hope you dont mind if I say something about the "ki ball" as a martialartest some martial arts use thier ki to focuse out pain so mostly they can take critle blows that would knock out a person or put them in the hospitle or even kill them and also they have to go through a test were they hit certen points on the body like the neck for instance and other ones and they have to go though them all with out telling them to stop or passing out ot anything a ki ball is not something you can see with your eyes it is something you feel its like your hands are magnets and they repel each other and that is all I have to say about the ki ball.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by laf7773:
P.S. Scott did you hear about John Harsey?

[This message has been edited by laf7773 (edited 06-08-2004).][/QUOTE]

Lane,

Yes I did. I am in contact with Gary and am passing the info on the rest of the yudansha. Very sad news.

Scott