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#85516 - 06/16/04 02:06 PM Re: Ki - WIND slement or FIRE element?
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Ki or chi is Fire, Wind, Air, Earth, Metal, Ether . . .
The quality of the Ki/ Chi is what the Historical Med. Texts are refering to. The way the energy is moving it can be "blocked", "stagnant", "rushing". "heavy" . . . etc . . .

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#85517 - 06/17/04 06:29 PM Re: Ki - WIND slement or FIRE element?
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whos john harsley?what happened to him?

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#85518 - 06/17/04 10:43 PM Re: Ki - WIND slement or FIRE element?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by horselover67:
whos john harsley?what happened to him?[/QUOTE]


A mutual acquaintance. He had some heart trouble and had to be hospitalized.

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#85519 - 06/28/04 05:08 PM Re: Ki - WIND slement or FIRE element?
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Ok my thoughts on several topics.

1 physic energy Is suppose to be an Electro magnetic charge that your entire body has think of your mind as a conductor for that energy and bam!! Thatís the theory on phy energy.

2 the five elements are not meant to resemble real forces in nature but characteristics n people like a horoscope so chi or ki is found within all 5 elements.

Not facts just thoughts

Saber

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#85520 - 06/29/04 09:10 AM Re: Ki - WIND slement or FIRE element?
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[Monty Python]And now, for something completely different.[/Monty Python]


[This message has been edited by Kempoman (edited 06-29-2004).]

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#85521 - 06/29/04 12:47 PM Re: Ki - WIND slement or FIRE element?
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If you are really interested in learning about how the "elements" apply t ma pick up The Bodhisattva Warriors by Nagaboshi Tomio (terrence Dukes). It explains that the elements are not always tangible ie fireballs, but should be thought of as a way to "label" behaviors and different types of movements. Sorry I can't be more thourough but its hard to fit 500 pages in one post

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#85522 - 06/29/04 12:56 PM Re: Ki - WIND slement or FIRE element?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by halfhangook:
If you are really interested in learning about how the "elements" apply t ma pick up The Bodhisattva Warriors by Nagaboshi Tomio (terrence Dukes). It explains that the elements are not always tangible ie fireballs, but should be thought of as a way to "label" behaviors and different types of movements. Sorry I can't be more thourough but its hard to fit 500 pages in one post[/QUOTE]


This book is pure crap.

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#85523 - 06/29/04 01:28 PM Re: Ki - WIND slement or FIRE element?
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I hope not it took a long time to read, but since you've read it as well why do you say that? (I m interested, not sarcastic"

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#85524 - 06/29/04 02:21 PM Re: Ki - WIND slement or FIRE element?
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Very little of the information in the book (especially the history) can be independatly verified. Most of it flies in the face of established accounts of martial arts history. If you are looking for something like this but much more accurate try anything by Patrick McCarthy.

Be very careful when dealing with 'Mushindo Kempo' or anything with Terrance Dukes (Nagaboshi) there have been many cries of Cult for many years.

Scott

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#85525 - 06/29/04 02:52 PM Re: Ki - WIND slement or FIRE element?
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Honestly I did feel like some of the information was inaccurate, especially the tomb paintings he said where the first written history of kung fu, many tkd historians say that is where tkd was first recorded. that and it had huge religious undertones, I just never met anyone else to discuss the material with,thanks I'm glad I didn't drink the Koolaid

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