Is anyone here familiar with the reality of Ki or Prana? For years I've been used to thinking of Ki as a manifestation of the FIRE "element of the ancients". Now a discussion has arisen in which somebody claims Ki is identifiable with the WIND humor or element. Which is it? Can somebody give me philosophical or Vedic references?

No. Ki is not wind or fire. You can't convert it into anything. Ki is Ki (energy). That's it. There are some who think you can control elements like fire and wind. Wind is aerokenesis. Fire is Pyrokensis. Lifting things with your mind is telekensis. Changing your appearance is Biokensis. NOT ki. Ki flows through you. Fire, Ice wind and such don't. Oh yeah, Ice is cryokensis. I am not making this up this is what they are called. But I don't think they exist.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Energy Master:
No. Ki is not wind or fire. You can't convert it into anything. Ki is Ki (energy). That's it. There are some who think you can control elements like fire and wind. Wind is aerokenesis. Fire is Pyrokensis. Lifting things with your mind is telekensis. Changing your appearance is Biokensis. NOT ki. Ki flows through you. Fire, Ice wind and such don't. Oh yeah, Ice is cryokensis. I am not making this up this is what they are called. But I don't think they exist.

[/QUOTE] I see I messed up on spelling some of those kenesises, oops.

[QUOTE]Originally Incoherantly Posted by Gobzhad
Is anyone here familiar with the reality of Ki or Prana? For years I've been used to thinking of Ki as a manifestation of the FIRE "element of the ancients". Now a discussion has arisen in which somebody claims Ki is identifiable with the WIND humor or element. Which is it? Can somebody give me philosophical or Vedic references?[/QUOTE]


Alright, who keeps passing out the pixie sticks?!?

[This message has been edited by Kempoman (edited 03-02-2004).]

In a discussion of KI/CHI/QI the five elements are FIRE, METAL, WOOD, EARTH, WATER. WIND is not listed, oh wait you think that cartoon stories are real life sorry I was useing real life examples.

In the Original Vedic philosophy the 5 elements are: Air (same as Wind), Earth, Water, Fire and Nothingness. If EVERYTHING is a composite of these 5 elements or "humors" Ki must be 1 or more of them. Please treat this as serious biz. If people have believed in this for 10,000 years there must be SOMETHING to it. Somebody must know something around here.

Yo G
Seems like you are the most knowledgeable person on this subject. As for an energy art that has supposedly been around for 10,000 years, you would figure someone would know something.
A little tip...
Remove yourself from the land of faries goblins dragons and all that crap and join us on the plane we all live on called EARTH.
BTW - I can produce the wind Ki - but only after a healthy dossage of chili.

So what kind of chili DO you get? I need some.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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