Bossman, I am not trying to prove you wrong and humiliate you, nor do I do it to start a fight, I simply want to clarify a few things. In response to Karate do's question "...does anyone know if chi kung is a part of the syllabus for tai chi chuan or is it a seperate art in its self,...", you answered "Chi is life force and Kung is skill so Tai Chi is Chi Kung by it's very nature.", while chi kung may very well be a part of tai ch'i chaun, this explanation is incorrect. I can understand why this confusion has occured. Though you are right in saying that ch'i is life energy, in this context it has a different meaning. I do not speak the language, but I am fairly certain that there are many words with two meanings and I believe this to be the case with ch'i. Though your explanation makes perfect sense, "tai ch'i chuan does not mean Life energy skill fist". Here is an exert from shaolin.com, "t'ai chi ch'uan (="grand ultimate fist") has been given a New-Age face lift, by dropping the "Ch'uan" in an effort to disown its martial roots." (Taken from The Shaolin Gung Fu institute). I hope this has not confused anyone and I certainly hope this has not offended you bossman.