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#85103 - 07/17/03 02:11 PM I can't take it anymore!!!
BBB Offline
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Registered: 05/11/03
Posts: 90
Loc: California
I've read books, asked others, and even tried some of those funky little experiments to try and see whether chi exists or not!

I'm trying to be open-minded but its driving me insane, it seems like every other source the opinion is different. One claims it exists, the other claims it doesn't. One claims you can focus more and break boards with it, the other claims you can heal, move people, and increase strength with energy.
Nothing is constant!

anyway now that i'm done complaining here's my question. Any of you know a good chi kung, reiki, or any other chi style book, website, or even instructor (i live in CA long beach) that could give me some kind of idea of what this stuff is about!

I hate not knowing or understanding something THAT crucial in martial arts. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif[/IMG]

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#85104 - 07/17/03 03:37 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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yes

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#85105 - 07/17/03 03:54 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
BBB Offline
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lol, thanks reiki, but i need a little more than that.

let me restate my question. MAY you tell me the names/locations of some of the books, instructors or websites that can help me find some good info on chi?

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#85106 - 07/17/03 04:12 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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Here's a link you may want to investigate http://www.geocities.com/fascin8or/reiki_101.html

It will send you to a good reiki 101 guide. From there you can decide where else you need to go.

I'm sorry I can't help you in person as I'm on the other side of the world to you, however if you want more help just ask. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

I'm a Reiki Master and can answer most reiki type questions. To personally experience reiki you will need to find a local reiki practioner and have a session with them.

Budo

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#85107 - 07/17/03 04:43 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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Looking for a constant? Wow your in for a wild goose chase on that one.

Instead of finding a constant, why not look for the theory YOU are most comfortable with?

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#85108 - 07/18/03 05:13 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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There are certain constants.

There are just different names for the same thing.

Study hard and find your own connections.

Budo.

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#85109 - 07/24/03 04:28 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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Good advice from the judderman........

mate, it's all up to you how you study and what you believe in.

At our National Grading in the weekend Lance Strong [founder of our Kiaido Ryu system] announced he is moving to USA to follow on with his career over there. He is intending setting up dojos in different areas and I'd recommend you check them out. We have dojos in Australia & the UK as well as all over NZ.

Key elements in our system cover internal arts such as qi gong and reiki.

Budo

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#85110 - 07/25/03 12:40 AM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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just a small update...

i started trying to find an idea i'm comfortable with and ended up joining a taichi/qi gong school. We did one of those holding hands in front of yourself palms facing slightly apart exercises (sorry i don't know how else to describe it). At first i didn't expect anything but a little into it i felt that strange feeling (like two magnets pushing away from each other) that has been described on this website.

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#85111 - 07/25/03 01:19 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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This is a good start.

Don't worry about what to call it. This only leads to arguements.

Use it and be happy with it.

It's all personal to you.

Budo.

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#85112 - 07/29/03 06:28 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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I have a question. Does pushing hands have anything to do with chi I tried something similar but didn't feel anything.

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#85113 - 07/30/03 07:10 AM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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BBB, you have found you answer already. Finding a teacher is the key to understanding the concepts of chi.
Piccolo, you asked. "I have a question. Does pushing hands have anything to do with chi I tried something similar but didn't feel anything."
Pushing hands does have something to do with chi development, but it is primarily focused on attaining sensitivity in the arms.
What style of Tai Chi do you guys do?

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#85114 - 07/30/03 05:58 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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none.
I have never done Tai Chi.

I am a Reiki Master that does martial arts [and a bit of Qi Gong] and a lot of other stuff....

[IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

I've eaten plenty of Thai food though.... [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif[/IMG]

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#85115 - 07/31/03 06:57 AM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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And if you eat enough you Tan Tien will be filled with a mysterious chi [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

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#85116 - 07/31/03 08:11 AM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by BBB:


We did one of those holding hands in front of yourself palms facing slightly apart exercises. At first i didn't expect anything but a little into it i felt that strange feeling (like two magnets pushing away from each other).
[/QUOTE]

Hi BBB
I've heard of this, but I'm not sure I'd want to own up to it on an open forum. There are children here you know [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

JohnL

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#85117 - 07/31/03 12:23 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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I do Chen style Tai Chi, Fisherman.

As for push hands, it's a favorite exercise of mine.

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#85118 - 07/31/03 02:16 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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Nice Ender!
Chen style is THE original Tai Chi.
Do you find that it complements you Karate? I know it certainly complemented my Kung Fu. Added alot of fluidity. However, I really don't do the Kung Fu too much anymore. My main focus these days is Tai Chi, Gao Style Bagua Zhang, and Hebei Hsing Yi.
Keep training hard!

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#85119 - 07/31/03 05:16 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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This exercise sounds like one I've done often making a ki ball. What you feel between the hands is the ki energy itself...

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#85120 - 08/01/03 03:00 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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Registered: 07/21/03
Posts: 70
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My style doenst really have a name its more of a incorparation of different arts there's tai chi in what I study.

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#85121 - 08/17/03 03:10 AM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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Registered: 08/14/03
Posts: 173
Loc: Manila, Philippines
Hello there! [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

I'm really interested in learning an internal MA to complement Karate. But I don't think i can find a good teacher of IMA here in my place. The Chinese who migrated to other countries became teachers of martial arts. But the Chinese here are rich businessmen.

I know that there are group of old Chinese men doing tai chi in one area for relaxation. But i doubt that they can teach me since they just seem to be doing the movements and not really using ki.

Any advice on how i can learn to use and strengthen my ki?

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#85122 - 08/17/03 08:18 AM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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I would suggest training with these old men.

They probably know more than you think.

Budo.

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#85123 - 08/19/03 08:18 AM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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Judderman said it right. You might want to study with these old men. As you get more advanced in the IMA's you refine your movements.

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#85124 - 08/19/03 05:22 PM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
Reiki Offline
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Registered: 05/30/02
Posts: 3400
Loc: MiddleEarth
[QUOTE]Originally posted by judderman:
I would suggest training with these old men.

They probably know more than you think.

Budo.
[/QUOTE]

hehehe! [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif[/IMG]

I bet they know a lot more than you can even imagine about ki..... and internal arts

Don't be fooled by the packaging!

What can seem effortless when done properly may be a lot more than you can SEE.

IOW - The untrained eye may not be looking fo the right things.

[IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif[/IMG]

train hard, be well

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#85125 - 11/26/03 07:40 AM Re: I can't take it anymore!!!
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Registered: 11/25/03
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Loc: phoenix, az USA
Hello to everyone! I am new, my first post, but have read many of the posts and found this site credible and entertaining. As I am the type of person who is never satisfied witj what I know or percieve as truth, please understand I ask a LOT of questions, and I respect all replies. I am pleased to make the aquaintance of such intelligent individuals, and have immensley enjoyed what I have read so far.

Reiki, I am particulary intersted in your ideas of Chi. Two years ago my right leg was shattered in a sparring competition, in which a well executed hip throw twisted my Tibia and Fibia "like a sponge" (my orthopedic surgeon), resulting in 17 different pieces. The attempt to repair the bones has proved some-what succesful, yet I am very limited in use of my right leg.

As I am interested most in Kempo and Kendo, this provides me serious hinderance and any energy I can incorporate into my studies is of great value to me. I have never seen a Chi demonstration, but if a shark can sense electro-magnetic fields 1/2 the size of its lateral line 2 miles away, then surely there is energy available to all; if nothing more than the mere perception of anothr's energy, all knowledge is valued.

While I am far too new in martial arts to debate the existance of Chi Balls and the like, I do believe one's energy is the prodigy of shaping through practice and wisdom. Just because I am a Christian does not mean I believe in miricale healings that are 100% effective, 100% of the time; however, there is scientifical evidence that suggests the mind is capable of healing the body - to a certain degree.

Does anyone have any suggestions for quality reading material on this subject (preferrably on the Web, as I rarely can leave the house due to the pain in my leg)? Has anyone experienced, or know of a similiar situation, an injury such as this? Are there exercises to strengthen the bones, even with the plates and pins and wire and stuff holding it together?

Anybody's imput on this would be most appreciated!! And again, it is nice to meet you all.

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