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#85036 - 06/25/03 09:39 PM exploding ki
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I want to know if it's real or not. I've heard lots about it. It sounds interesting. It's might come in handy. But I would have to learn how to increase my ki. Hopefully it is real. Can you give me any information like books,websites,info.

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#85037 - 07/20/03 04:08 PM Re: exploding ki
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DOES ANYONE ANYTHING.

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#85038 - 07/22/03 04:38 PM Re: exploding ki
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I would begin by looking into Chen style Tai Chi or JKD. Where do you think Bruce got his 1" punch from? Look into topics concerning fa jing; chinese for explosive internal energy.
It is real, however I wouldn't really consider it exploding; more like a sudden violent expansion of body tissues. If you get hit with it, it does feel like you are going to explode!
Yes you would have to learn how to increase you chi, but thats part of the price you have to pay if you want to learn how to issue power.
Hope this helps.
Good luck

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#85039 - 07/22/03 04:46 PM Re: exploding ki
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As always, the explanation is as clear as mud
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#85040 - 07/23/03 07:43 AM Re: exploding ki
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Yeah
Trying to explain internal power is like trying to explain Quantum Physics to a 3 year old. Too much to type.

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#85041 - 07/23/03 08:08 AM Re: exploding ki
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fisherman:
Yeah
Trying to explain internal power is like trying to explain Quantum Physics to a 3 year old. Too much to type.
[/QUOTE]

Love the insult [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

Unfortunately, people who know about quantum physics can usually explain it quite well, whereas people who say they know all about chi cannot explain it and when questioned come up with quotes like yours.

Simply hiding behind statements like yours does no credit to the chi pushers who are still unable to prove it's existence.

JohnL

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#85042 - 07/23/03 02:39 PM Re: exploding ki
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JohnL
What I said was not meant to be taken as an insult; only to bring up the point that the depth of internal arts is hard to explain in words.
Quantum physics are NOT internal martial arts, thus they can be verbally explained. Chi is esotericaly overblown, however this doesn't mean that it does not exist. Talk about insults, would you tell someone that is devoutly religious that their god doesn't exist? Prove to me that god exists? Prove that love exists?
If you need proof that chi exists, I encourage you to seek out a reputed Xing Yi or Bagua Zhang teacher in your area. Tell them that you don't believe in chi and that you would like to challenge them on that premise.
Once again my post was not meant to insult.
I hope you can find the proof that you are looking for.
Regards

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#85043 - 07/23/03 04:17 PM Re: exploding ki
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Maybe he means fa jing. Not chi. Fa jing means explosive power and is very easy to explain.

It is the ability to strike with relaxed-whole-body power. Local musclulature is not involved, instead the body is relaxed and aligned to allow the power (physical) to follow a specifc path along the tendons/muscles/ligaments.

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#85044 - 07/23/03 04:27 PM Re: exploding ki
JohnL Offline
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kempoman:
Maybe he means fa jing. Not chi. Fa jing means explosive power and is very easy to explain.

It is the ability to strike with relaxed-whole-body power. Local musclulature is not involved, instead the body is relaxed and aligned to allow the power (physical) to follow a specifc path along the tendons/muscles/ligaments.

[/QUOTE]

Great!
I understand everything you said, accept it and agree.

JohnL

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#85045 - 07/23/03 04:35 PM Re: exploding ki
JohnL Offline
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Hi Fisherman

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Fisherman:
JohnL
What I said was not meant to be taken as an insult; only to bring up the point that the depth of internal arts is hard to explain in words.
Quantum physics are NOT internal martial arts, thus they can be verbally explained. Chi is esotericaly overblown, however this doesn't mean that it does not exist. Talk about insults, would you tell someone that is devoutly religious that their god doesn't exist? Prove to me that god exists? Prove that love exists?
If you need proof that chi exists, I encourage you to seek out a reputed Xing Yi or Bagua Zhang teacher in your area. Tell them that you don't believe in chi and that you would like to challenge them on that premise.
Once again my post was not meant to insult.
I hope you can find the proof that you are looking for.
Regards

[/QUOTE]

The depth of internal arts aren't hard to explain, it's just that you can't.
Keep religion out of any any discussion, it won't help you.

I have had various encounters with Chi pushers both in person and on this forum.
None as yet have convinced me that chi exists in any manner other than purely physical properties.

For your explanation of chi to date, I award you full membership of the FCP club.. (Failed Chi Pushers)
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JohnL

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