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#84744 - 06/03/03 05:53 PM Re: Iron Shirt
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Registered: 04/29/03
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Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Why not do both? Find an instructor AND read a book?

theres a solution, or maybe Im just crazy?

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#84745 - 07/05/03 03:34 AM Re: Iron Shirt
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I have read the book. The danger I believe is due to the Golden Buffalo, Golden Turtle positions, where extended forward bend over of torso affects veinous circultion. There is very good parts in there about standing posture and the sacral and cranial pumps.

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#84746 - 08/17/03 02:59 PM Re: Iron Shirt
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the iron shirt is very real but u will not find
the complete studies in a book or video.
u need to find a teaher but one must study
many years in order for the teaher to divulge
the infor related to the iron shirt i tell
u this it all start by first learning to
breathe from your abdomen and visualizing
the chi in it center,from there learning
to access the microcosmic orbit with a series
of anus tensing , sound homo ha this is not a
joke do your research. hope this was helpful

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#84747 - 08/18/03 10:05 AM Re: Iron Shirt
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3 key things here:
1. Some Qi Gong exercises are dangerous, no matter what some folks belive. I t can cause excessive heat in organs or in the head and can quite literally drive you crazy.
2. Find a qualified teacher and ask if they teach it.
3. Read a book to supplement what your teacher is showing you.
- It is vital to be under supervision by a qualified instructor. Many books (Iron Shirt Chi Kung - Mantak Chia) even state that they are not liable for negative side effects to improper practice.

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#84748 - 08/18/03 04:31 PM Re: Iron Shirt
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Great advice Fisherman,

I have found mantak chia's books especially problematic. His Iron Shirt tends to cause running fire symptoms.

You can't learn this stuff from a book. Period.

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#84749 - 08/19/03 08:15 AM Re: Iron Shirt
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Amen Kempoman
Most of Mantak Chia's 'Iron Shirt Chi Kung' is rather hard to interpret.
I think it is probably best to start with some basic Qi Gong like the 8 Brocades before moving on to the advanced stuff. This alows time for your mind and body to adjust.

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#84750 - 04/19/05 02:36 PM Re: Iron Shirt
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I wonder if any one really knows if iron shirt techniques actually work or not..has ne one heard or the 7 secrets?? it's mostly breathing techniques which appear to work very well...has ne one used them? what did you think??
regards
tang soo

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#84751 - 04/19/05 09:50 PM Re: Iron Shirt
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Yes, iron shirt works...as does the golden bell and a method I call the YiLi shield.

Those who say that you cannot learn it from books are right.

Is it a big secret? Not at all...It's just that most don't want to undergo the training, once they find out it requires a period of celibacy.

chufeng

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#84752 - 04/19/05 11:25 PM Re: Iron Shirt
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I agree with qimaster kempo and fish this is a very dangerous style of chi gung and should only be done with a qualified instructor.

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#84753 - 05/07/05 05:31 PM Re: Iron Shirt [Re: pmac798]
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I would learn it from authentic Shaolin teachers and nowhere else. Hung Gar is a good place to learn it, the Iron Wire form alone will develop it. But guess what, you must have been practicing for a LONG time, have the endurance and stamina, because it WILL kill you other wise.
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