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#84005 - 12/31/04 02:24 AM Re: Meditation and demons, etc ?
karate-do Offline

Registered: 10/31/03
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From meditation ive experienced many lucid dreams and it has broadened the way that I think and react to conflict, I have also had quite a few 'insights' where i have seen shapes, changes of colour and experienced intense feelings( happines, serialness etc) but all of these things can be explained scientifically. I would by no means refer to them as paronormal.
Id like to mention though beardy in your 6th post you respond to qisnake about experiencing 'evil' in meditation my belief and my belief on this in my mind is a certanty that there is no evil in the world at all only ignorance, we are all born with a pure and good nature and as soon as we reach infancy imo we start to make mistakes and form deep rooted ignorance which we and others can interperate to be evil. I think that if everybody realises that there is a kind and wonderful nature underneath the ignorant and sometimes ugly exterior of peoples personalities that we would achieve a paradise in our own world and that people would no longer imo want to fantasise of a paradise in an after life ect(This is not an attack on religeons I myself may well be ignorant with respect to religeons, Its just not a topic we can be certain of) Id like to apologise in advance for the lack of punctuation as i noticed this thread at 8:04am after having no sleep and wanted to share my opinion.

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#84006 - 01/24/05 09:10 AM Re: Meditation and demons, etc ?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by schanne:
There are no such things as demons. The evil is in mans heart, the evil exist throughout our lives, but it is man made. God does not create or possess anything evil, there is no devil which creates evil acts to occur! Man is responsible for all evil in this world.

Man is the evil force behind all the countless acts against humanity that has gone on since the dawn of civilization. And it is man alone who must accept the blame and responsibility to assure that these things do not continue in the future. Devils , demons....that's what children believe.

While I dont agree that demons and devils dont exist I believe thatit is mans own love or want of arbitrary unimportant things that causes evil. For ex love of money(greed), love of yourself(to an extreme in the form of ego) or mans want of more material things in general. These are the primary causes of true evil.
Just my take on things.

#84007 - 01/25/05 08:33 AM Re: Meditation and demons, etc ?
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the "evil" and scary s**t you meet in meditation is made by your "ego" in order to scare you into not letting it go

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