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#83170 - 03/30/04 09:27 AM body hardening
D-Reck Offline
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ANY SUGGESTIONS ABOUT HARDENING THE SHINS< FEET AND HANDS!

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#83171 - 03/30/04 11:20 AM Re: body hardening
schanne Offline
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Registered: 02/18/04
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Try a Makiwara, pound on it every day.

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#83172 - 04/01/04 08:53 AM Re: body hardening
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I made one of those, but what about something handhelp, like a joe stick but can be home made. I have been using grape vines taped together and split at the end for my feet and shins! I keep to the makiwara for my hands. what u think about my home made hardening stick!



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#83173 - 04/02/04 05:29 AM Re: body hardening
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by D-Reck:
ANY SUGGESTIONS ABOUT HARDENING THE SHINS< FEET AND HANDS![/QUOTE]

Shins - sparring and heavy bag

feet - sparring, heavy bag and conditioning exercises for the feet such as pulling yourself along on your toes, scrunching up news paper with your toes, jumping on convex, convave surfaces etc.

Hands - sparring, heavy bag and conditioning exercises for the hands such as gripping exercises so chin-ups will help.

Wacking something that doesn't move like a makiwara does little for acuracy in a live environment and only prepares your knuckles, wrist etc. for Impact in a certain way.

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#83174 - 04/05/04 01:53 PM Re: body hardening
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by D-Reck:
ANY SUGGESTIONS ABOUT HARDENING THE SHINS< FEET AND HANDS![/QUOTE]


What are you trying to accomplish? Are conditioning for breaking?

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#83175 - 04/07/04 10:18 AM Re: body hardening
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i'm working towards getting my hands, feet ,and shins as hard as possible to eventually fight professional. I've been looking into breaking and it might be something i would want to do down the road.
I'm trying to suceed for myself as many martial arts pratices as possible and starting with
ju jitsu / tia kickboxing

I'll tell you what my schedule is:
-I start out with hardening the shins and feet with a joe stick, then i go out to my garage and have a bag that i kick to warm up, have a 2/4 board that i kick 50 reps each leg. then kick with my shins 25 reps each leg. go back to the bag and do 100 reps of each leg, and 50 reps with shins. go back inside and use the joe stick agian. done with shins and feet.
For hands i use the makiwara mostly. warm up on the bag and then move to the makiwara and thats it for the hands.
I'm trying to get a high kick as well any streching tips?

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#83176 - 04/08/04 12:34 PM Re: body hardening
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D-Reck - my instructor has four world titles (real titles too ISKA etc.)in Kickboxing (with leg kicks) and has fought at the very top of his game in Thai boxing.

I have spoken to him about the conditioning he has done and in a career spanning 20 years he has only sparred and used the heavy bag for conditioning.

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#83177 - 05/23/04 06:08 PM Re: body hardening
Ronin1966 Offline
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No need to YELL friend... (lower case letters are polite)

What is your purpose or intent in "hardening" your shins, hands, etc.? Why do you want to do this?

Jeff

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#83178 - 05/23/04 06:22 PM Re: body hardening
Ronin1966 Offline
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Two additional questions, if I may.

Ever considered asking whomever is training/trained you this far for their counsel how to achieve your goal(s)?

And I am not being sarchastic, I am asking earnestly, genuinely... have you considered learning how to be hit LESS, and being skilled at that technique; body placement, positioning, footwork rather than learning to become a human makiwara post/heavy bag?
It's the opposite end of your current goal... but one you might consider.

Learning to be hit and continue in spite of that, is a common goal, the question becomes is it truly necessary/helpful to "condition" yourself, in the way you describe. Consider will your "professional fights" have no gloves, no shin/foot protective/foot gear of some kind? If so... <shrug> why go that path, virtually any equipment will negate the need for it.

Merely a thought,

Jeff

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#83179 - 05/25/04 07:48 AM Re: body hardening
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Registered: 06/08/04
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Loc: CANADA
Is that not what we dreamed of as children. To have the strength of ten ordinary men. So long as eleven guys don't get togeather and beat the crap out of me Ill be okay.



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