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#82969 - 06/10/05 11:08 AM Re: Does size matter [Re: Pess]
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In point fighting or tourney sparring the fast form may have a big advantage. But in a street fight, I?

I've notice once the sparring goes full contact this advantage slips away slightly and power, tenacity becomes more a factor. Now if with the speed he has telling power the outcome may be the same or worse.

Equal skill, more power and more strength gives you a decisive advantage, you can be a little slower. In the streets theres no rounds just an explosive series of moves only the most skilled little man can make fitness a real factor here. Like it is in the wild damage is done powerfully, quickly, and unmerciful. Being able to inflict telling damage on the other guy is imperative. Only the toughest little guy can survive a exchange were both are inflicting damaging blows. His best strategy is to hit and don't get hit hard. Of course a more skilled guy can hit in areas that will break down the bigger man.

I've seen smaller more skilled men beat the day lights out of big mouths that are just big. But the skill factor was way shifted to his advantage.
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#82970 - 06/10/05 10:34 PM Re: Does size matter [Re: JohnL]
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ANY PERSON CAN BE BEATEN ON ANY GIVEN DAY
THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEONE TOUGHER THAN YOU

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#82971 - 06/11/05 05:23 AM Re: Does size matter [Re: kibadachi1]
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True dat its not the size of the boat but motion in the ocean lol lol lol
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#82972 - 06/11/05 04:28 PM Re: Does size matter [Re: Yoseikan Student]
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I seen a little guy in a K1 fight just charge the hell out of this huge guy and he knocked him out in the first 45 seconds of the fight. I think if you are smaller you should just charge in and try to get as many shots as you can on them and hopefully daze them good so you can get more shots on them.

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#82973 - 06/13/05 06:32 AM Re: Does size matter [Re: Neko456]
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Does size matter?
YES, of course it matters!
If you are tall and big you have a better chance of kicking the crap out of someone. There is hope for the small guys because you dont need treetrunk arms to generate power but it helps! you dont need houses for legs to kick hard, but it helps, you dont need long arms to hit someone before they can hit you but it helps!
Big guys have an advantage when you start from zero, but if you can make up for it with skill then good for you!
There are parts of the body that no amount of strengthening will strengthen (eyes, throat, balls, sternum, kidneys). But if you ask me to fight against Brock Lesner, then i de tell you to kiss my....

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#82974 - 06/13/05 09:53 AM Re: Does size matter [Re: Blindsided]
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I've also seen little guys smashed like egg shells for rushing with the "I'm gonna go balls to the wall at him", if you are smaller you gotta have a plan or just be that much better then your opponent. If the guy has good foot work and accurate anything from hands to knees to kicks rushing in blindly will only get you smashed.

If the big guy doesn't have any skills or hes caught cold you can walk him down and more safely do the same damage tben rushing in hard throwing all you got. Most skilled people know how to side step or circle a rush and once they get that off angle its lights out.

Big or small I like people to rushing in blindly, they run right into strikes, adding to the power!!!
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#82975 - 06/19/05 01:18 AM Re: Does size matter [Re: Yoseikan Student]
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With being slack and not reading all the post let me say sorry first if I rehash on point already covered.

However in my opinion every one worries about size as a major factor. The thing is you cant change your genetics and how you are by DNA. So work with what you have find out how you can counter the obstacle in front of you.

Thats why you continue training, no matter what level your. Somewhere someone in the world is training and when you come head to head they will beat you. So train all the time, whether mentally, spiritully, physically.............
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#82976 - 06/22/05 12:00 AM Re: Does size matter [Re: York Karate]
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"As was siad mass (size) x speed = velocity (power)

I think you have to be a whole lot better than your attacker to be able to punch twice as fast so overcome mass, and however you spin it size is a factor because you have to find a way to overcome it "- quoted from someone i forget.

don't give me that bulldonkey. how can you be so ignorant as to base an opinion on something that isn't always true. I am 270 lbs, i bet you i can punch faster than most of you. no way to tell. But size does not determine punch speed.

Size does play a role in a fight but there are too many variables to determine a fight off of just size. Everything plays a role when duking it out, weather, the environment, experience of each participant, size, strenght, endurance, speed, quickness, focus, injuries, what they ate/drank, did they pee, do they have too? what clothes they are wearing, rings, jewelry, weapons, shoes, piercings, tattoos, sickness, if either participant gets help from friends, how much alcohol they drank, the list is endless, but size does play a role.
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#82977 - 07/01/05 06:54 AM Re: Does size matter [Re: Legend of the Hungry Wolf]
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Registered: 05/04/05
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Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Here Here! i agree, and that sums up the arguement

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#82978 - 07/07/05 10:28 AM Re: Does size matter [Re: Legend of the Hungry Wolf]
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I disagree with you here, the rest of your comments was solid, but this part. - base an opinion on something that isn't always true. I am 270 lbs, i bet you i can punch faster than most of you. no way to tell. But size does not determine punch speed.

Unless you have trained exclusively to improve your speed I doubt if you can punch as fast as most of us that weight 225lb and less. That was a comment with no way of proving it, as U mentioned. But generally big guys don't strike faster then smaller guys, but with their natrual speed + weight + proper torque they can hit harder, most time.

Of course it doesn't require that much power to knock a person out, no matter how big they are. If you get there first and often it doesn't matters. A big guy may only need to get there once, if he is fighting a smaller person.

A small guys strength is his speed and tenacity, of course we have all seen the tall skining or short fat guy thats slow as moluosses, with no snap is his punch.

I'll make a genearlizing statement from what I've seen that the big guys 5'8-6'5 250-500lbs that are not agile though they maybe powerful standing & in the mount. Are usually very clumsy on the ground and or against a guy with good foot work and find it difficult to defend or get up once on the ground. Unless they have train on how to do this. And still they may do it less effective, most of the time.
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