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#75044 - 08/05/04 04:58 AM Protein Shakes

So I Decided To Buy Two Packs Of 'Boost' The Other Day , I Told My Friend That It Would Make Someone Strong Or Big. And It Will Really Help Make Your Muscles Stronger And Bigger. I Drink It After I Work Out.
He Was A Bit Skeptical And "Researched" If Protein Shakes Really Work. He Made A Thread In This Forum And It Got Me Confused, Some People Said It Is Good And Some People It Was Bad. Can Someone Tell Me The Whole Deal?? He Says Protein Shakes Don't Work.

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#75045 - 08/06/04 01:04 PM Re: Protein Shakes

hey kbr, protein shakes are used to give ur body nutrients to help it grow muscle. u can get the same thing from food, ud jus have to eat a lot of food to get the same amount. it is not a miracle supplement or anything like that. get the cheapest whey protein u can. whey protein is the best stuff out right now, doesnt matter wat kind. it does help u grow muscle. Add fruit juices, pbutter, etc for carbs for energy. if u feel u need them

#75046 - 08/09/04 01:54 AM Re: Protein Shakes

Any More ??

#75047 - 08/09/04 04:45 AM Re: Protein Shakes

I myself bought a 6lb container of Pro-Rated (brand name) 100%whey protein. It had 22g of whey protein per serving with a total of 90 servings in the container. This was my first protein buy. After I ran out (4 months after i bought it), i've found myself craving peanut butter. I can eat a whole container of peanut butter in a day. I know that this is not good, so asked my freind (who is teaching me Kenpo) and he told me that the best protein to buy is Soy protein.
If anybody out there is reading this and would like to comment (as long as it's constructive, please do so)

#75048 - 08/09/04 07:36 AM Re: Protein Shakes

Soy is great, but it is not as biodegradeable as whey (run an internet search on biodegradeable and whey and soy and other types of protein). Basically this means it is not a complete protein and ud need to supplement it with other AA's to get the full effect. Fuuny enough, EGGS are the most efficiently used for protein for our bodies. Some soy is supplemented at the factory so it is more of a complete protein. Also, ur body cannot subsume more then 30 g of protein per every 5-6 hours or so, so bare that in mind while making ur drinks.
hope this helps,

#75049 - 09/01/04 05:59 AM Re: Protein Shakes

More please

#75050 - 09/02/04 06:17 AM Re: Protein Shakes

KBR, I think the role of protein shakes becomes a bit clearer when you have a better idea of why you need protein and how much you need.

Protein by itself does nothing. By itself it will not make you stronger, nor will it make you bigger. Its just a food, or in the case of protein shakes, food in liquid form.

What will make you stonger is strength exercise (e.g. weights). The exercise breaks down your muscles which need to rebuild themselves to become stronger, denser and bigger. Your body uses protein for this task.

Now the general rule if your doing strength training, weights etc is that you need 1 gram of protein for every pound of body mass. I'm 176lbs so I should try and aim for 176g of protein a day.

Personally I don't like protein shakes because I think they are overpriced for what you get. I prefer just to try and eat a lot of whole foods that are high in protein: basically eggs and meats. If you can't get meet your protein needs through food then by all means supplement it with a supplement.

If I was you I wouldn't worry about the best protein (eggs vs whey or whatever), just get your basics down first.

In summary, Protein Shakes can be useful if your dietary intake of protein is inadequate for your needs but its the exercise that will make you strong and big, not the shake.

#75051 - 09/07/04 08:59 AM Re: Protein Shakes

Protein shakes are just cheap, easy meals that replace food that it is, it is NOT a miracle. You can get other things in protein shakes like ZMA, L-Glutamine, prop-peptides etc. Depending on how crazy you want to go with dieting, you should probably look at a total protein shake, one with at least three different type of proteins (Whey, soy etc), these are probably the best for a beginner. Whey protein is very good, but total is better. If you do get whey, get the isolate and use it half an hour after training, as opposed to the whey concentrate. If you want somehting good get a protein shake with some l-glutamine, and HMB, or buy some L-glutamine tablets, and some omega -3 tablets.....

#75052 - 09/08/04 02:20 PM Re: Protein Shakes

I think if I were you, I'd jus get myself on the internet and read all that I could to find out for myself. One highly respected powerlifter's site is listed under keyword dr. squat.
I think opinions about protein and its uses, quality, etc. seem to derive from what the person has read or studied.
Just remember, the more additives u have in the protein, the more it costs. When I was training hard I would ingest 6 eggs every morning (one yolk, 6 whites). It helped me increase my size and strength, however, I also ingested 30g of whey protein every afternoon (at a minimum), to break up the monotony. dfrang is right about the part reference ingestion after a workout....

Hope this helps,

#75053 - 09/24/04 09:56 PM Re: Protein Shakes

[QUOTE]Originally posted by hunterkell:
Also, ur body cannot subsume more then 30 g of protein per every 5-6 hours or so, so bare that in mind while making ur drinks.

Show me a scientific study which backs that claim.

According to Jeff Everson, PhD, the whole "you can't digest more than 30 grams of protein at a time" bit was started by gym owner Vince Gironda, but there's no studies which bear it out.

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