Isn't that a page from one of Ashida Kim's books? He's a well known fraud. Much worse than the current XMA craze.

the way you guys put it, it sounds like ninjutsu is an MA I'd like, I'm fairly sneaky, I like throwing things [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/tongue.gif[/IMG], I wouldn't mind learning how to handle weapons, I wouldn't mind using those funny tricks and mind tricks, and I'm rather into the whole concept of a mental battle rather then all out slugfest that I see from UFC MA's, and most likely, from non UFC people too [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/tongue.gif[/IMG]

stop makeing post like this. Ninpo is rare becuase its an extremly hard art,if it was ez every one would do it and they might as well just call it karate.true Ninjutsu is one of the most if not the most versitaile and the most well rounded art out there.So stick that in your pipe and smoke it you Ninpo bashing S.O.B's.
and to every one whos not a **** have a great day [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

thanx wesd

How can laf 7773 say that master kim is a fraud?
He should feel deeply ashamed for having said that...
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...which is absolutely true of course. [IMG]http://www.fightingarts.com/forums/ubb/smile.gif[/IMG]

Kim`s one of that guys who make it so difficult for us serious practioners of "NinjUtsu" to get acknowledged as martial artists.

I do like to talk with people who do not train in our art but are interested and maybe have an opinion or certain thoughts about this art. But I`m complaining -as we do so often- about people taking something they have heard (from somebody who took just a few lessons for example) as serious as if it was the one and only unbreakable law.
Who would like to be treated in a question of life & death by a doctor who just started to study medicine three weeks ago?
Why is it so different with everything concerning "ninjutsu" and related topics?

Even if someone trains in the art, you may sometimes get wrong informations, but from a person not involved in our art you`ll get much more of such "information".
In such a situation it would`ve been better not to ask at all as it`s easier to get an unknowing person informed than an already prejudiced one.

People who use search machines on the internet to get informations about Ninjutsu should be aware, that there are a lott of good sites but also many bad ones.
In most cases sites that claim to be of Bujinkan, Genbukan or Jinenkan are relatively trustworthy
-but still use your brain to not get trapped by some "strange ideas".

Someone wrote about "stupid low stances".
I don´t want to go to far into the details and actually I don`t know the circumstances in which the person had to perform the stances.
One of the things we learn in the Bujinkan (at least here in germany) is to perform everything with large and extended movements.
This helps the student to feel how his body behaves , where to put special attention on in a movement etc.
As he grasps the principle and reasons for his movements better by doing so (especially if he`s new to the art), he can more easily apply the principles in his movements as they become smaller and smaller
-with not loosing 50% of power by decreasing the movement by 50% for example.
The smaller movements are often the more realistic ones but they are the more difficult ones also
-therefore it`s absolutely necessary to "know" what to do and how.

Greetings from Berlin, Wilf

I myself do not train directly under a trainer in Ninjutsu, but I do research ninjas a lot. I have learned to live my life like they did, and I practice ninja techniques, not neccessarily Ninjutsu, but bits and pieces from it. Mainly things people would consider useless, like stealth walking, which I am guessing is the "dumb low stance" people are referring to, even though I find that stance very useful. There is more to Ninjutsu than meets the eye, and I sadly do not know as much I wish I knew. I think people ignore Ninjutsu because they view it as a useless art, and their only view of ninjas is the horribly slaughtered role they have in Hollywood. I for one am for the idea of a forum designed specifically for Ninjutsu. I can't tell you much mr vigerous, other than if I had a choice, I would be practicing Ninjutsu, not Tae Kwon Do. As to if there are still real ninjas left,not now, but give me a few more years of study.....

Sorry folks. That line about "living my life the way they did" sounded down right idiotic, and I wish to formally retract that statement. I agree with the rest I posted, but that one line should be ignored. Thank you and a thousand apologies!

*hangs head low*

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ninj kazi:
Sorry folks. That line about "living my life the way they did" sounded down right idiotic, and I wish to formally retract that statement. I agree with the rest I posted, but that one line should be ignored. Thank you and a thousand apologies![/QUOTE]

Very noble act. I'm glad you pointed it out before somebody else did.

As a side note, you could have also used the "edit" button, but this was almost better.

Joel

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MrVigerous:
Out of respect for all Arts and to make up for what has been seen by some as my unprovoked slandering of ninjitsu, here is an invitation. Would any genuine ninjitsu practitioners please get a post rolling (either in reply to this or on a fresh post) regrading the Art, its principles, etc. I'm sure we can all learn something from a genuine practitioner.

Regds
Mr V[/QUOTE]

so much respect you dont even take the time to learn to spell it right?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MrVigerous:
Out of respect for all Arts and to make up for what has been seen by some as my unprovoked slandering of ninjitsu, here is an invitation. Would any genuine ninjitsu practitioners please get a post rolling (either in reply to this or on a fresh post) regrading the Art, its principles, etc. I'm sure we can all learn something from a genuine practitioner.

Regds
Mr V[/QUOTE]

so much respect you dont even take the time to learn to spell it right?