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#436310 - 08/12/14 05:14 AM Re: The Karate punch [Re: Matakiant]
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Karate punches will to me always be considered as grappling skills the push pull as practiced in Judo and Jujitsu not actual punching.
If you look at the origins of Karate through to Koda Te to Shuri Te and Tomari Te and Naha Te and beyond they were grappling arts very close to that practice in Judo and Jujitsu using many skills found in Chin Na an San Shou Kiao Juao.

boxing punches are proven in many conditions to be more powerful than karate punches
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#436321 - 08/26/14 09:27 PM Re: The Karate punch [Re: Matakiant]
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there is no 'karate punch' - there is only a response that works, and one that doesn't. getting caught up in the details is drinking the kool-aid of whatever the particular school is teaching. alot of karate places remind me of esoteric software design..they over-engineer the solution to the problem which leads them down a path of focusing on over-developing minute details instead of the big picture.

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#436336 - 09/18/14 06:07 AM Re: The Karate punch [Re: Ed_Morris]
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Originally Posted By: Ed_Morris
there is no 'karate punch' - there is only a response that works, and one that doesn't. getting caught up in the details is drinking the kool-aid of whatever the particular school is teaching. alot of karate places remind me of esoteric software design..they over-engineer the solution to the problem which leads them down a path of focusing on over-developing minute details instead of the big picture.


Well what is the big picture then?

And how is there no ''karate'' or any other style punch? The body mechanics taught or ''technique'' taught wildly differ in karate alone.

I've been taught one way another guy this way and a third guy in a completely different way. Even in your own style, if it still has teachers who are actually teaching not mimicking what whatever some great long dead Sensei who founded the style did, people will be using different technique and body mechanic to best suit their own bodies.

So I suppose thinking back on it now my question was sort of a double edged sword; 1 for people who do truly believe this textbook style stories of how a karate punch must have a twist or your shoulders should never be raised or any other kind of (to me) nonsensical absolutes.

A lot of people would crucify you for saying ''a punch is just a punch'' but in reality it is, the only difference is how it's being thrown, what the body mechanics behind it are, wether their solid or not-so solid.

Ultimately I think any practitioner should strive to reach a level where the mechanics they use are not directly mimiced off of anyone, if you practice long enough with focus and contact you should be developing your own ''style'' that fits and works with your body the best.

I am just interested in the different ideas behind proper body mechanics or technique so to speak. To my sadness I find that the majority of people who are practicing karate do not think about body mechanic they think about ''what sensei said & showed me'' and when that sensei him/herself isn't thinking about it... Well you get meaningless hollow techniques.

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