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#436162 - 01/30/14 07:07 AM Re: Sine Wave (ITF TKD) [Re: Dobbersky]
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We all havev access to the "Scientific" reasoning behind the sine wave, but what is YOUR opinion of it please.

I'm with my friend "Martialist" regards to its uselessness.

If it was that good, it would be used in everything, but at present its used ONLY Poomsae/Tuls/forms not in the Self defence combinations etc.

Also on a side note on some of the forms the hands come back to the waist before striking this to me is detrimental. try have someone in boxing gloves punch you full speed in the face as you do this block/strike and see if you can bloke it BEFORE he hits you in the face
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#436164 - 01/30/14 08:53 AM Re: Sine Wave (ITF TKD) [Re: Dobbersky]
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As both a martial artist and a scientist I find the concept of using a sinewave to generate power in lieu of the hip twist to be fundamentally flawed. I personally think it ruins the look of the patterns . Without twisting the hips the punches become more like arm punches. The up and down movements for horizontal strikes are a waste of energy (any movement of the striking hand that is not in the direction of the strike does not add to its power). The bobbing up and down decreases the balance by raising the C.O.G. Personally I am glad I have never been subjected to the sinewave as I find it rather non-sensical.

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#436165 - 01/30/14 05:03 PM Re: Sine Wave (ITF TKD) [Re: Dobbersky]
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One can generate tons of power without Sine-Wave or hip twist. If one can keep knees bent and smear feet to link body from ground through legs then core and finally through the striking arm it's very powerful. his type of punch depends on the back muscles to generate a devastating strike.
The key is to be mobile enough between strikes. When the opportunity to strike comes one must be grounded immediately to launch the punch.
This comes from a self-defense perspective. In a sport setting one might not get the opportunity because opponent is bouncing around.

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#436166 - 01/31/14 04:55 AM Re: Sine Wave (ITF TKD) [Re: gojuman59]
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Originally Posted By: gojuman59
One can generate tons of power without Sine-Wave or hip twist. If one can keep knees bent and smear feet to link body from ground through legs then core and finally through the striking arm it's very powerful. his type of punch depends on the back muscles to generate a devastating strike.
The key is to be mobile enough between strikes. When the opportunity to strike comes one must be grounded immediately to launch the punch.
This comes from a self-defense perspective. In a sport setting one might not get the opportunity because opponent is bouncing around.

Agreed. if you take K-1 or a Muay Thai Fight, you don't see the fighters bouncing around like they're on springs etc. they have solid stances and react instinctively. I prefer old school TaeKwonDo before the Sine Wave when they were more into martial arts than trying to create and Olympic sport or differenciate themsleves from Japanese Karate - Tang Soo Do MooDuk Kwan concidered by many as Korean Shotokan is a very very nice style and they don't use this "sine Wave". If the Sine Wave was actually useable surely a few other style would have adopted it?
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#436189 - 02/25/14 01:27 PM Re: Sine Wave (ITF TKD) [Re: Dobbersky]
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I don't know what sine wave is but do know Muay Thai! I really like it, I'm making my own style and Muay Thai takes a big part in it. Sure Muay Thai is solid. But that's what I like about it. It's direct like karate(kinda).

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