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#172762 - 08/12/07 01:12 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: jpoor]
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IMHO the knock on DVD's is vastly overstated. Yes, you may develop some bad habits in your technique since no instructor is there with you to correct them.

However, it is a mighty big assumption to think that a "qualified" (whatever that means) instructor would correct you at all. A good instructor would - whether he's "qualified" by anyone or not - but not everyone is a good instructor. You're only better off with an instructor if the instructor knows his stuff.

Secondly, you can learn more than you think on your own.

Read that last sentence again.

Thirdly, 95% of everything that matters can be learned without an instructor from a DVD alone. Even if you don't learn the proper weight shifting, hip torque or whatever to make the technique as effective as possible, you have a lot less to learn now than you did before you started the DVD. Now all you have to do is tweak the technique to make it effective since you've already mastered the basic motions.

I am very hesitant to knock DVD's or self teaching. Anyone who has ever advanced MA beyond its current state was to some extent self taught. Even the mere attempt shows a passionate desire and a drive to learn and that alone is priceless.

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#172763 - 08/12/07 02:17 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: sopwith21]
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Does a DVD provide a training partner with live resistance?
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#172764 - 08/12/07 11:38 PM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: sopwith21]
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sopwith21, you may be right. For many people it may be the case that they can learn correctly from a DVD. The reason why many people caution against learning in that fashion is that if a person learns bad form from a DVD, it may be difficult for them to discover that their form is bad or to recover from what they have learned because their instruction from a DVD is not interactive. A DVD can not see when a student has bad form and then correct them. So while there may be students who can learn correctly from a DVD, some people will have great difficulty learning that way.
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#172765 - 12/31/07 10:15 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: Leo_E_49]
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To those looking for an instructor/dojo. Beware wolves in sheeps clothing. By this I mean do some research.
There are many that claim to be "hall of fame" inductees that have done only one thing to accomplish such a feat. They wrote a check for , say, $300 and mailed it in to the "hall of fame". Some instructors claim to be inducted but when you go to the Hall of Fames web site - there isn't one. A Hall of Fame that doesn't have a web site? What does this tell you?
Don't think for a minute that because the instructor is a member of an international org. he is honest. Sometimes these are the biggest conmen.
I checked one instructors web site. He claimed to have been inducted into a "hall of fame" in 2000. His name appears nowhere on the hall of fame website. His name is in the book he was given when he sent his check to them . He also claims to have been inducted into another HOF a couple of years later. It was for his contributions to the arts and for being of "exceptional charactor".
Beware!!!!

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#172766 - 01/29/08 11:57 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: horizon]
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Hello, I'm a spamming dork. Please ban me.


Edited by ZombieZero (01/29/08 12:32 PM)

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#172767 - 01/29/08 12:00 PM SPAM ALERT [Re: manman5800]
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Please ban this jackass.
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#172768 - 04/22/08 03:02 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: horizon]
The_Master Offline
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hey, i'm quite obsessed with MA. I research it, i talk about it alot to every1 excessively, i like watching it performed and I REALLY WANT TO DO IT. I know one martial artist who has been MMA champion or something like that 2 years in a row. he says that before i do any combat MA, i should do Tai-Chi as a good foundation to build upon and said I would learn much faster. I have researched, and have chosen Jeet Kune Do as a suitable 'style' for me. i am so obsessed with MA, i want to do at least 2 classes a week, and practice at home every single day for at least half an hour. do you believe that if i do Tai-Chi first, I will learn faster? and if so, how fast will i learn practicing all the time?
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#172769 - 04/22/08 03:16 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: The_Master]
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r u serious?

I don't think Tai Chi is your best place to start if you want to get into MMA or "Combat arts". Seek an MMA school and they will develop your base for you.
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#172770 - 04/22/08 03:42 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial artists. [Re: JasonM]
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....i'm going for Jeet Kune Do, not MMA. i'm just doing what he said, he's a pro and besides, even if the Tai-Chi is worthless, it'll only waste 11 weeks. this guy takes on 10 other guys at once easy, so i'd do well to listen to him.
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#172771 - 04/22/08 03:57 AM Re: A post for those who might become martial arti [Re: The_Master]
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Quote:

i should do Tai-Chi as a good foundation to build upon and said I would learn much faster. I have researched, and have chosen Jeet Kune Do as a suitable 'style' for me. i am so obsessed with MA, i want to do at least 2 classes a week, and practice at home every single day for at least half an hour. do you believe that if i do Tai-Chi first, I will learn faster? and if so, how fast will i learn practicing all the time?




I hear that Tai Chi takes a long time to become proficient with. Also 11 weeks is basically no time at all, you probably won't benefit from such a short time studing Tai Chi. Furthermore, if Tai Chi is not the art you want to be studying, you might get bored with it and become disenchanted with your studies. I think it's best for you to just start on JKD straight away and forget the Tai Chi.
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