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#433865 - 09/23/11 02:44 PM UNBENDABLE ARM
Jade Dragon Offline
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UNBENDABLE ARM

Not all in Aikido emphasize the internal aspects of Ki (Qi, Chi), but some schools cultivate it in meditation, throwing, and staff; as mine did.

When water is rushing through a fire hose at a high pressure rate, and flowing out of the nozzle, it is nearly impossible to bend sideways. This is due to the internal strength of the water flowing within.

This is the same energy that is used in internal martial arts, and is strengthened with the training method 'Unbendable Arm', made famous by Aikido Grandmaster Uyshiba.
See: http://aikidoforbeginners.blogspot.com/2007/06/unbendable-arm.html

Stand in a relaxed horse stance with one fully extended arm raised to the side. The arm should be slightly curved inward with fingers extended, palm up.

Flow energy from your Lower Dantien, through your arm and about 4 inches past your fingers.

This flow through your arm; is like the flow of water through a hose, except for the wetness.

A good example to try; is to attempt to bend a hose. While water is rushing through it, if it is a fire hose it will be impossible. Have a classmate attempt to bend the arm at the elbow. Your arm will be firm, but not the definition of
tightly contracted muscles (bands separated and pumped).

Next check the arm by someone tapping the arm. It should not be flaccid or limp; yet it should sway slightly with the blow. If muscles are tense; it will not sway, only jerk. The firmness of the armís meat; is similar to the touch of excellent muscle tone.

This muscle-meat is the conduit and capacitor of Qi.
From:
Axe Hand; Hsing-i & Internal Strength Workout, pages 51-52.


Edited by Jade Dragon (09/23/11 02:47 PM)
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#433869 - 09/25/11 09:13 PM Re: UNBENDABLE ARM [Re: Jade Dragon]
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Oh god, it has nothing to do with "Ki", "chi" or anything else it's a simple display of kinesiology and physics that some disguise as mystical magical invisible powers.

Duane

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#433873 - 09/26/11 12:19 PM Re: UNBENDABLE ARM [Re: duanew]
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Ha. For once, Duane and I agree about something. smile
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#433875 - 09/26/11 08:26 PM Re: UNBENDABLE ARM [Re: MattJ]
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AAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!

Duane

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#433878 - 09/27/11 08:34 AM Re: UNBENDABLE ARM [Re: duanew]
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Do you mean, its not "Magic!"

;-(
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#433895 - 09/29/11 09:44 AM Re: UNBENDABLE ARM [Re: Dobbersky]
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"It look like magic, look carefully for trick. There always a trick." Kuda Yuichi
Duane

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#433898 - 09/29/11 10:07 AM Re: UNBENDABLE ARM [Re: duanew]
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Call it "thaumaturgy". Sounds much more ritzy.

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#434012 - 10/17/11 05:35 PM Re: UNBENDABLE ARM [Re: duanew]
Jade Dragon Offline
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What others do, is not my concern in regards to:
"that some disguise as mystical magical invisible powers",
every field has its imposters and marketers.

Ki as defined as a life force, is practical.

Ki energy described as the flow of water through a fire hose, preventing it from bending, is common sense.

Our bodies are over 80% water.

Would the mechanistic describe our movement in terms of bones, pulleys and tendons?

When I see a tiger move, I see a wave, not a stick diagram/erector set of pulleys: a mechanistic approach.

If you want to talk physics, kinematic wave theory as studied in the models of wave propagation theory or the piezoelectric effect in this forum, under
Non-mystical discussion of Qi


Edited by Jade Dragon (10/17/11 05:44 PM)
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#434013 - 10/17/11 07:15 PM Re: UNBENDABLE ARM [Re: Jade Dragon]
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Originally Posted By: Jade Dragon


Ki energy described as the flow of water through a fire hose, preventing it from bending, is common sense.

Our bodies are over 80% water.



I might buy your proposition IF your skin was firehose and you could take that 80% water in your body and physically direct it with your mind to create 100's of psi of water pressure...but you can't. If ki is "real" then how can I take anyone and have them do the same technique using their extensor muscles and no ki since they don't know what it is. Fairy dust not included.

Duane

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#434020 - 10/18/11 12:46 PM Re: UNBENDABLE ARM [Re: duanew]
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Look at a piece of raw iron.

You can get it magnetized by wrapping it in a bare wire electrical field, and flowing energy through it.

Our bodies have a lot of systems flowing through it, some of them are bio-electric.

Pound on that iron enough and it will heap up.

File on it and the iron filings will magnetize.

Our bodies have pressure systems internally also.

For more research, see Piezoelectric.



Edited by Jade Dragon (10/18/11 12:51 PM)
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