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#433933 - 10/06/11 07:21 PM Reverse Stabbing Grip Style?? (Zatoichi Style)
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I'm a big fan of sword fighting movies, and by far my favorite is the Zatoichi films and tv show. The star who plays Ichi the Blind Masseur and gambler is Shintaro Katsu, and the one thing that is obvious, even to a casual observer, is that he grips his cane sword in a reverse manner, blade out and gripped like a stabbing knife. I know this is the movies we're talking about here, but was this style ever a real sword style that was taught by some master to students at a dojo? The style is obviously derived from an Iaido style, as often the character draws and cuts in the same motion. Is anyone familiar with this style, and does it have a name? Zatoichi does use a traditional sword style as well, in particular when he is seperated from or unable to use his cane sword, but that is rare for him. IN THE MOVIES (I know- not real life) he is very effective with this style, often stabbing those who come up behind him, as well as working very well in close quarters and interior spaces. He also incorporates alot of judo/jiujitsu moves into his fighting style. Surely Shintaro was basing this style on some noted sword style from the past- your thoughts and or answers would be greatly appreciated!! This is my first post, so be gentle ha ha.
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#433937 - 10/07/11 09:20 AM Re: Reverse Stabbing Grip Style?? (Zatoichi Style) [Re: zatoichi-no]
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Welcome to the forum!!I can't give you any info on the grips he used or anything like that.It's just great to see somebody else who likes sword fighting movies.I've recently started collecting samurai movies.There are some great movies out there.If it has Mifune in it you're getting a great classic Samurai movie.There are also some real good newer movies.13 Assassins,The hidden blade...the list goes on and on.


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#434096 - 10/31/11 06:25 PM Re: Reverse Stabbing Grip Style?? (Zatoichi Style) [Re: gojuman59]
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Sorry this reply is late in coming, but I don't get by here too much anymore.
That being said, I've never heard of Shintaro Katsu having any actual sword training. Stage swordsmanship has always been standard training for acting schools in Japan, since back in the Edo period. Movie sword fighting is quite a bit different than actual Japanese sword arts because the basic idea behind it is totally different.

While several koryu sword schools have occasion to use the reverse grip, it is very rare and highly situational. It is very rare because it extremely limits your movements.
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#434100 - 10/31/11 09:52 PM Re: Reverse Stabbing Grip Style?? (Zatoichi Style) [Re: pgsmith]
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Try Googling up gyakuto sword kata.

I can think of several in Muso Shinden Ryu. But at the moment I can't spell them. They are good as a low block to an ankle cut and to tsuki someone behind you.

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