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#433088 - 07/05/11 07:46 AM Re: What's so good about legendary Japanese swords? [Re: 47MartialMan]
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Yeah, but a new sword has never been checked to see how many dead convicts it can slash thru-now that's mystique!

Duane

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#433115 - 07/06/11 02:00 PM Re: What's so good about legendary Japanese swords? [Re: 47MartialMan]
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The "best" Japanese blade I was ever honored to handle was a six hundred year old forgery. Very light and short. Very well balanced. Very "tired". That means one more polishing (the only way to sharpen a quality blade) and the remains of the hamon would be gone. It was worth at least a thousand dollars.

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#433127 - 07/06/11 11:16 PM Re: What's so good about legendary Japanese swords? [Re: iaibear]
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Originally Posted By: iaibear

The "best" Japanese blade I was ever honored to handle was a six hundred year old forgery. Very light and short. Very well balanced. Very "tired". That means one more polishing (the only way to sharpen a quality blade) and the remains of the hamon would be gone. It was worth at least a thousand dollars.


Yeah, there are some that fetch more than that.

Careful though, even if it is "old" it can be almost worthless, as there were "cheap" made ones back in those eras as well.

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#433128 - 07/06/11 11:17 PM Re: What's so good about legendary Japanese swords? [Re: duanew]
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Originally Posted By: duanew
Yeah, but a new sword has never been checked to see how many dead convicts it can slash thru-now that's mystique!

Duane


Actually, they weren't dead until they were sliced-slashed. smile

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#433132 - 07/07/11 10:17 AM Re: What's so good about legendary Japanese swords? [Re: 47MartialMan]
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"How good is it?"

A practitioner (not me) was doing the kata called "batto", slipped and ran the tip through his upper arm (not just into but through).

His doctor examined the wound and any damage the vintage sword might have done to the surrounding tissue. The cut was so scalpel neat, he just pressed the edges together and wrapped on a bandage to hold them steady. It healed smooth.

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#433147 - 07/08/11 07:46 PM Re: What's so good about legendary Japanese swords? [Re: iaibear]
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Originally Posted By: iaibear
"How good is it?"

A practitioner (not me) was doing the kata called "batto", slipped and ran the tip through his upper arm (not just into but through).

His doctor examined the wound and any damage the vintage sword might have done to the surrounding tissue. The cut was so scalpel neat, he just pressed the edges together and wrapped on a bandage to hold them steady. It healed smooth.


What comes to mind;

"Why do a kata with a razor-sharp sword?"

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#433151 - 07/08/11 10:55 PM Re: What's so good about legendary Japanese swords? [Re: 47MartialMan]
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<< "Why do a kata with a razor-sharp sword?" >>

Because it is yours.
Kata can be done with a shinken. Higher belts who own one or more practice with them regularly.

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#433168 - 07/09/11 03:13 PM Re: What's so good about legendary Japanese swords? [Re: iaibear]
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Another notion just occurred to me.

What is the point of owning a Porsche if you don't drive it?

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#433171 - 07/09/11 08:15 PM Re: What's so good about legendary Japanese swords? [Re: iaibear]
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A Porsche is designed to go fast.

In many places there are speed limits.

Therefore, owning a Porsche is a issue of prestige because one can never supercede the speed limit.

Like a sharp sword, do something wrong and there WILL be consequences

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#433248 - 07/12/11 08:03 PM Re: What's so good about legendary Japanese swords? [Re: 47MartialMan]
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A good sword to a not so good sword has a lot to do with metallurgy and the skill of the smith NOT to screw it up.A good sword holds an edge and is tough enough to handle impacts and cutting. If a sword wards, twists or bends in the hand of a novice then it 's likely not a good sword. An skilled swordman can "use " a good sword to cut because his technique is trained to cut properly. even a bad sword CAN cut.

A reputable smith can forge a strond blade with no micro cracks in the steel. these micro crack and stress fractors can eventually lead to the demish of the blade during use.

Metallurgy -wise the steel has to be harden enough to hold a good edge but tough enough to withstand impact.

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