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#432538 - 05/29/11 01:09 PM Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan.
Buah Pukul Offline

Registered: 05/29/11
Posts: 28
Hello everybody..
I'm from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. I am a silat practitioner..
Used to learned Seni Silat Gayong and now i'm learning Seni Silat LianPadukan. Seni Silat LianPadukan is different from other silat melayu. It is a form of martial arts that is in the 'Buah Pukul' categories in Malaysia.In Silat 'Buah Pukul' LianPadukan, practitioner do not have to roll around, no karate or taekwando style of high kicks & no locking technique or grappling..It's a form of hitting your enemy flat to the ground. Every moves is a direct hit to the enemys face or body..
Originally was brought to Tanah Melayu (Malaysia was called Tanah Melayu) by a chinese muslim trader named Sheikh Abdul Rahman AlYunani in 1897. Stories says that Sheikh Abdul Rahman defeated 8 chinese port workers that tried to mug him easily. The incident was made known to Sultan Ibrahim (Sultan of the state of Johor) and the sultan ordered his personal bodyguard, Dato' Awang Daik (a silat sunting master) to test Sheikh Adbul Rahman. Dato' Awang Daik brought along the Chief Police of Muar district, Pak Long Muhd Yassin (a silat sendeng master). After long talks, both of the silat masters managed to persuade Sheikh Abdul Rahman to show his skills and both the silat masters was defeated by Sheikh Abdul Rahman. Then, both the silat masters brought Sheikh Adbul Rahman to Johor to teach them and others the skill of his fighting technique..Since then, the fighting skills taught by Sheikh Abdul Rahman is known as silat 'Buah Pukul' or silat Lian..
Now, silat 'Buah Pukul' or silat Lian has develope into few different styles..The most well received is Seni Silat LianPadukan..It's movement is fast and has always been compared to the chinese style of kung fu - Wing Chun.
Among it's philosophy is - wanna hit but dont wanna get hit.

Here is a video of Seni Silat LianPadukan sparring demo

Edited by Buah Pukul (05/29/11 01:13 PM)
Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan - Ta' Melayu Hilang Di Dunia..

#432556 - 05/30/11 10:56 AM Re: Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan. [Re: Buah Pukul]
Buah Pukul Offline

Registered: 05/29/11
Posts: 28
The Founder of Seni Silat LianPadukan.

Seni Silat LianPadukan was founded by the late Mohammad bin Chik or better known as Pak Mat kedidi. He upgraded & modified the original silat 'Buah Pukul' or silat Lian and name it Seni Silat LianPadukan. He started learning Silat Lian from his father at a very young age. At 9 years old, he was sent to the Kelantan state to futher his knowledge. He learned from his brother-in-law when he was 19 years old. In 1939, at 27 years old, he joined the police force and was posted to Padang Besar,the Malaysia & Thailand border. There, he learned Muay Thai from Tok Chah, a respectable Muay Thai guru. Under Tok Chah, Pak Mat Kedidi managed to win tournaments around the border and was known as 'The Black Beetle'. The name - The Black Beetle was given to Pak Mat Kedidi because of the 'hissing' sound of his kicks.

He also managed go back an forth between Kuala Lumpur and Kuala Sungai Baru, Melaka to learned Silat Sendeng Asli Muar from Long Aman bin Ujan. There, he also mastered the Tekpi or Sai.

Then, he continued to learn Silat Lian from Chu Aman, a master in Silat Lian and in 1961,Pak Mat Kedidi received the Silat Lian 'Buah Pukul Mersing' Nukil or the historical scroll of masters of Silat Lian from Chu Aman. He was asked to continue studyng the technique of Silat Lian from Sani Abu Samah and in 1972, before retireing from the police force, he befriended Pak Manas, a master in Silat Sunting. His cousin, Haji Ahmad Awang, the mufti of negeri Johor, managed to talk him to register and named the way of fighting as the Seni Silat LianPadukan. After retireing, Pak Mat Kedidi expanded the teaching of seni silat LianPadukan which he created by mixing the arts of Muay Thai, Silat Sendeng, Silat Sunting and the Silat Lian 'Buah Pukul' into a fighting technique that is fast,no mercy & hard and still managed to preserved the original silat 'Buah Pukul' philosophy - want to hit but do not want to get hit..

* a video from LianPadukan Martial Arts Academy in Gombak, Selangor under Cikgu Hisham..

Edited by Buah Pukul (05/30/11 11:16 AM)
Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan - Ta' Melayu Hilang Di Dunia..

#432846 - 06/17/11 11:26 AM Re: Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan. [Re: Buah Pukul]
Dobbersky Offline
Peace Works!!!!

Registered: 03/13/06
Posts: 921
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How Closely Related are the Malaysian Arts to the Filipino Arts?
A man is but the product of his thoughts what he thinks, he becomes.


#432890 - 06/20/11 09:50 AM Re: Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan. [Re: Dobbersky]
Buah Pukul Offline

Registered: 05/29/11
Posts: 28

hey Dobbersky..
I'm not really familiar with Filipino's fighting arts..Malaysian's silat are more similar to the Indonesian's silat..As some of the silat in Malaysia originated from Indonesia..Silat Harimau Berantai was introduced to Malaysian by the Minangkabau people that migrated to the state of Negeri Sembilan in the centre of Malaysia. Silat Sendeng was brought by the Bugis people to Johor.
All these silat was practised by most people in Malaysia, Indonesia as the region is the Malay archipelago. That includes the Filipino islands. Maybe that explains why all these fighting arts are related.
Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan - Ta' Melayu Hilang Di Dunia..

#432963 - 06/26/11 01:08 AM Re: Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan. [Re: Buah Pukul]
Buah Pukul Offline

Registered: 05/29/11
Posts: 28

Grandmaster of Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan.

Now, The Grandmaster of Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan is YB Haji Muhammad Hasyim Bin Haji Muhammad Salleh. He received the 'Nukil Persilatan Lian' or the historical scroll of Silat Lian from Pak Mat Kedidi in 1997.
Haji Muhammad Hasyim have been learning Silat from his father at a very young age. At 8 years old, he studied Silat Sendeng Buah Pukulan Melaka Kaedah from Cikgu Haji Kassim bin Md. Noh in Melaka. After moving to Johor in 1975, he learned Silat Kalimah Sakti from Cikgu Ahmad bin Kahar in Kampung Kastam and Cikgu Aziz Osman in Kampung Bendahara Johor.
In 1977, Haji Muhammad Hasyim learned Tae Kwan Do from a few masters in Johor & Singapore until he received his 'Black Belt'. At the same time, he managed to studied Silat Kuning Kuningan from Haji Husin in Plentong. In 1979, he studied Silat Cimande from Wak Saripan. Then, he managed to learn Silat Membujur Lalu Melintang Patah from Yusuf bin Osman. He managed to complete studyng or khatam the silat in 3 months.
Because of Haji Muhammad Hasyim passion to martial arts, his father introduced him to Pak Mat Singa. Pak Mat Singa challenged him to a fight and both of them fought in a bas. Haji Muhammad Hasyim lost the fight even when he was attacking or defending. It was from that moment, his involvement in "Buah Pukul' Silat Lian.
Pak mat Singa introduced Haji Muhammad Hasyim to Pak Mat Kedidi and was asked to learn 'Buah Pukul' Silat Lian from Cikgu Razak Sharif, Pak Mat Kedidi's son-in-law around 1982-1987. Haji Muhammad Hasyim also learned 'Buah Pukul' silat Lian from Pak Mat Samurai.
Haji Muhammad Hasyim also managed to learned 'Buah Pukul' Silat Lian from a few other guru's. Among them was -
- Pak Andak Wahab Larkin Jaya.
- Pak Atan Air Batu Kluang.
- Pak Talib Nik Larkin Jaya.
- Pak Raja Ali b Raja Salleh Batu Pahat.
- Pak Majid Klinik Kg. Melayu.
In 1987, Pak Mat Kedidi graduated or 'Khatam' Haji Muhammad Hasyim, and in 1997, Haji Muhammad Hasyim receives the 'Nukil persilatan Silat Lian' or the historical scroll of Silat Lian from Pak Mat Kedidi and was appointed as the Grandmaster of Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan.
Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan - Ta' Melayu Hilang Di Dunia..

#432964 - 06/26/11 02:14 AM Re: Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan. [Re: Buah Pukul]
Buah Pukul Offline

Registered: 05/29/11
Posts: 28

In Silat LianPadukan, there is no rolling,no dancing,no laying down,no turning around,no running. In LianPadukan, punching means 'Buah', perisai (palm) means 'pukul'. When we punch, the enemy blocks, we will counter.The same when the enemy punch, we will counter. In LianPadukan, offensive strikes are the main concept rather than defensive. This are the main concept which is not much different than the original 'Buah pukul' concept.
Basicly, LianPadukan teaches its practitioner to launch a contineus pattern of strikes that is aggressive and will not allow the enemy to strike back. And that is the philosophy of Silat 'Buah Pukul' Lian. Once a LianPadukan attackes in closed range, he will contineusly pressure the enemy with a pattern of strikes that will broken down the enemies defence and will contineu to strikes until the enemy is defeated or falls flat on the ground.
LianPadukan is not a defensive or pasive form of martial arts. It is an offensive, pro active, aggressive and dangerous form of martial arts.
Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan - Ta' Melayu Hilang Di Dunia..

#432965 - 06/26/11 03:51 AM Re: Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan. [Re: Buah Pukul]
Buah Pukul Offline

Registered: 05/29/11
Posts: 28

In LianPadukan, there is 4 basic movement called Jurus which teaches the use of hands, elbows, knees and the foot to kicks. Perisai is the usage of the knife like palm of the hand to strike and blocking the enemy while moving forward, inwards or outwards and it is an important movement which is applied in every stage of Lian.
After mastering the Jurus, practitioner will learn the next stage called Lian. Lian is a similar concept to 'Kata' in Karate and other japanese/chinese martial arts.
There is 4 stage of Lian in which each stage contains 4 different level of Lian to master. During these stages, practitoner will learn techniques, tactics and applications that are related to each Lian. Practitioners skills will developt and enchance during each stages of Lian.
In LianPadukan, practitioners will learn techniques and tactics such as 'Rebut'(how to brake down the enemys defence), 'Reju'(continues pressure to the enemy), 'Turut'(how to move forward,sideways following the enemys movement), 'Titik'(how to brake down enemys hand strike) and 'Makan Gerak'(how to counter enemys attack).

A. Sylibus Lianpadukan

- Peringkat Jurus
1. Jurus Satu (Tumbuk)
2. Jurus Dua (Siku)
3. Jurus Tiga (Lutut)
4. Jurus Empat (Kaki)

- Lian stage 1 Lian Gelek 2 belah
1. Lian Selak Panjang
2. Lian Siku
3. Lian Singkap
4. Lian Selak Pendek

- Lian stage 2 Lian Reju
5. Lian Reju
6. Lian Tangkap Tembung
7. Lian Badik
8. Lian Cangkul

- Lian stage 3 Lian Tumbuk Mengambil
9. Lian Lintang
10. Lian Sepak Yim
11. Lian Kwantung
12. Lian Kopak

- Lian stage 4 Lian Pagar
13. Lian Pagar Simbuh
14. Lian Pagar Tedung Berlipat
15. Lian Pagar Semutar
16. Lian Gulung

Belt system in LianPadukan -

*Black -
New student.

*Black/Red -
Mastered the jurus level.

*Red -
Mastered the stage 1 Lian.

*Green -
Mastered the stage 2 Lian.

*Yellow -
Mastered the stage 3 Lian.

*White -
Mastered the stage 4 Lian.

*Black with Red,Green,Yellow,White strips with White circle -
Graduated or 'Khatam Istiadat' which carries the title 'Cikgu' and will be allowed to open classes to teach LianPadukan.
Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan - Ta' Melayu Hilang Di Dunia..

#433060 - 07/04/11 09:28 AM Re: Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan. [Re: Buah Pukul]
Buah Pukul Offline

Registered: 05/29/11
Posts: 28

Here is a video of the late Pak Mat Kedidi. The Founder of Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan Malaysia..
Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan - Ta' Melayu Hilang Di Dunia..

#433360 - 07/19/11 10:42 AM Re: Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan. [Re: Buah Pukul]
Buah Pukul Offline

Registered: 05/29/11
Posts: 28
Here is an article about LianPadukan written by Master Nigel Sutton taken from The Silat Melayu Blog-

Lian Padukan
Article written by Nigel Sutton

Lian Padukan is a form of Malay martial art (Buah Pukul) and yet it is quite distinct from other forms of Malay martial art. Lian means "way" while Padukan means "fortified strength".

In the 21st Century the Martial Arts have come of age with many exponents cross-training in a number of disciplines in order to ensure that they develop a weel -rounded range of skills. Silat Lian Padukan embodies this ethos of constant improvement and innovation so that an art which was brought to Singapore in the 19th Century by a part Arab-part Chinese Moslem has grown to encompass the Malay art of Silat and the Thai art of Muay Thai. And always this art has been put to the test with generation after generation of exponents fighting both armed and unarmed to prove the efficacy of their art.

The Master who gave this art its current name, Guru Tua Pak Mat Kedidi, is no exception having earned the nom de guerre of The Black Beetle when fighting his way to become a Thai Boxing champion in southern Thailand. He acquired this name because of the buzzing sound his kicks made as they cut through the air and into the opponent with unswerving accuracy.

Pak Mat took the art handed down through successive generations from the time that Syed Abdul Rahman Al-yunani came to Singapore in 1836 and combined it with his experience in numerous other styles of Silat as well as Muay Thai (Tomoi) to create the 99 forms of Lian Padukan. Included among the Lian are the two principal weapons of the art, the staff and the tekpi (iron three pronged truncheons known in Japanese Marial Arts circles as Sai).

Although the entire syllabus maybe learnt in 6 or 7 months of intensive study, to become fully competent takes the average student two years. Those who wish to further their study may undergo the formal Khatam ceremony after which they will be eligible to learn the advanced techniques including the infamous Tujoh Makam (also known as the Buah Seminggu), which involves seven days of intensive training with each and every hour spent one on one with the teacher.

Edited by Buah Pukul (07/19/11 10:44 AM)
Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan - Ta' Melayu Hilang Di Dunia..

#433365 - 07/19/11 10:28 PM Re: Persatuan Seni Silat LianPadukan. [Re: Buah Pukul]
iaibear Offline

Registered: 08/24/05
Posts: 1304
Loc: upstate New York
Quite informative. Thank You

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