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#432619 - 06/01/11 05:54 PM Re: Defense in Karate [Re: MattJ]
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To MattJ
To open them up for a better strike. Like using an outside inside block to get behind them. Basically, to maneuver yourself to where they have few ways to hit back.

And to 47MartialMan

I agree with you, but now, I'm thinking that we're just using these lower belt levels as skills training. He has told me before that we will do live training, but he wants us to learn the skills first.

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#432622 - 06/02/11 06:11 AM Re: Defense in Karate [Re: Razma]
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I would think that using a block to re-direct a persons body shape to move yourself in to a better position is pretty risky IMO. I assume that is what you are talking about?

First of all, what if it isn't a straight punch? Could you still use that block to stop a left hook aimed at your head? Or an uppercut?

What happens if you miss with your block or it doesn't redirect the attacker as you hoped?

What happens if the attacker throws many punches at once? Or gets close enough to grab your blocking arm and starts a grappling match??

Matt had it totally right, footwork is the best way to avoid an attack and position yourself for a counter.

This is just an Aikido demo, but notice the positions the defender gets himself in to here just by using footwork. He doesn't use any hard blocks.

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#432629 - 06/03/11 11:50 AM Re: Defense in Karate [Re: Razma]
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In Tai Chi they don't spar yet it is an awesome martial art.

Relax if I have worked out the level your at you've only been training less that a year.

Your first point of call for ANY question should be your Sensei/Sempai.

It takes around 3 1/2 to 5 years to get to black belt level and you will learn a lot. Don't worry about how fast you learn the techniques as the longe you practice the better you will become at those techniques.

Just Relax and enjoy your training
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#432634 - 06/03/11 07:13 PM Re: Defense in Karate [Re: Dobbersky]
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Sorry if I come across as a wiseass but they do spar in Tai Chi. It's called Tui Shou, aka "Push Hands". Two non-compliant Tai Chi practioners try to push/pull each other out of an area. It tests a students structure and sensitivity skills. Think of lightweight sumo wrestling and you'll start to get a pale idea of Tai Chi sparring.

There are even competitions for it:

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#432635 - 06/03/11 09:54 PM Re: Defense in Karate [Re: Razma]
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Originally Posted By: Razma
To MattJ
To open them up for a better strike. Like using an outside inside block to get behind them. Basically, to maneuver yourself to where they have few ways to hit back.

And to 47MartialMan

I agree with you, but now, I'm thinking that we're just using these lower belt levels as skills training. He has told me before that we will do live training, but he wants us to learn the skills first.


Makes sense

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#432684 - 06/06/11 04:58 PM Re: Defense in Karate [Re: 47MartialMan]
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Beginning with attacks (in regards to sparrring) makes sense to me. Attacking requires a specific mindset. Most people have to redeveloppe this mindset. (This depends on the way you were raised. Ethics and such.)
When you start to early with the defensive skills, you might focus to much on evading and stepping back.

A sparring match is never won without scoring points through landing attacks.

A similar mindset has to be developped to apply in self-defence situations. (Think pre-emptive striking and such.)
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#432692 - 06/07/11 05:37 PM Re: Defense in Karate [Re: Ives]
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Ives, that makes a lot of sense. There's a lot of people who start off very self conscious and so worried about getting hit that they can't hit back.

I still don't understand the concept of points. Not all hits are equal. And we can't use point values without place hit points on people.

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#432713 - 06/10/11 11:02 PM Re: Defense in Karate [Re: Razma]
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More traditional Okinawan Karate does not point spar

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#432715 - 06/11/11 08:46 AM Re: Defense in Karate [Re: 47MartialMan]
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That is correct Martialman. In our class the sparring we do is only to work on techniques for self-defense. It didn't take to long to find out that my tournament teqhniques from the past weren't gonna help in this type of sparring.


keep training, Mark

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#432719 - 06/11/11 11:22 AM Re: Defense in Karate [Re: gojuman59]
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Originally Posted By: gojuman59
In our class the sparring we do is only to work on techniques for self-defense.


Same with ours.
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